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Old 06-28-2008, 10:01 PM   #21
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@ sathilda: at lv 50 the question is dispell or or 3rd lv 19 spell or mental down to lv 7. Mana pylon, evendims fury and steel skin are all really good spells. Dropping mental means the loss of ivy, knockdown and silence. Maybe dropping mental is ok for fort but on hunts those lv1 spells are really important. So what now? Your problem won't be solved at lv 50. And I'm not even talking of the lack of skill points to yet. Whatever you do, you will miss a lot. That's why I think that the spell is on a too high lv place for conjurers.
On the other hand I made a warlock setup today with dispell lv 3. And I don't have such problems there. I got almost everything I want (at lv 50 I will have everything I want, apart from twister, which is imo only a small loss, compared to dispell). So maybe we should just redistribute tasks and let warlocks do the dispell. It would be a more efficient use of skill points.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:22 PM   #22
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A conjurer can do well without will domain and silence. Ivy isn't a requirement either. Mental is not that important for a support conjurer. I have Dispell level 4 and I have no problems. Even with Enchantments at level 17 I do not think it will be difficult for me.
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:42 PM   #23
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A conjurer can do well without will domain and silence. Ivy isn't a requirement either. Mental is not that important for a support conjurer. I have Dispell level 4 and I have no problems. Even with Enchantments at level 17 I do not think it will be difficult for me.
Its nice to have some of the mental spells available, even when doing support. A lvl1 mindpush helps securing the support rows when "mad barbs" charge, and when they stop do the cheap beetle - they are certainly casting their areas...

Anyways, I probably chose a way too general title, but I still would go back to solving the buffing support issues. Maybe someone has a better solution than has been proposed here?

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Old 06-29-2008, 02:02 PM   #24
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For me mental spells are a bonus, and I only get them using the spare discipline points left after I get my main spells. It all depends on your build philosphy and playing strategy. Anyway my post was in response to save_the_trees in that dispell wasn't that high up on the enchantments list anyway and that in my point of view you can create a workable setup for a level 50 even if you make it a level 17 enchantments spell as suggested by sathilda.

As for your initial post, I agree that it would be nice to have better ally buffs under the enchantments tree. It's too cumbersome to cast them all and the effects really aren't that good for the hassle and time it takes to cast them all.
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