Even Press gets shot - Page 4

DkySven · 08-18-2008, 09:08 PM

Here we have Geert Wilders, who thinks every Muslim wants to kill every non-Muslim. Every country has his idiots.

Pizdzius · 08-18-2008, 09:29 PM

seems like western europe has most of them though

-Edge- · 08-19-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aardvak2669

seems like western europe has most of them though

Well I know that in Eastern America its still racism wars, strong hates between black and white, and you see alot of crime.

Pizdzius · 08-19-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rated_R_Edge

Well I know that in Eastern America its still racism wars, strong hates between black and white, and you see alot of crime.

I'd rather say that in Sweden, France and Belgium there are worse wars than in Eastern part.

Static_Fang · 08-19-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aardvak2669

I'd rather say that in Sweden, France and Belgium there are worse wars than in Eastern part.

The east? Really? I always thought it was the west...my bad >.<

Ertial · 08-19-2008, 08:06 PM

The United States aren't making things better with this rocket shield. Like said before it isn't very powerful against attacks on a large scale, but it is threatening the Russians. Currently the NATO can't extend their military infrastructure in Poland and other Eastern European countries.
If the EU won't loosen their relation with the United States, it will be very hard for Sarkozy to get real peace. Currently Bush seems way to eager to go to war; at least he speaks like the Cold War is coming back.

The promise to Poland that the US would protect them isn't something I'd trust very much. The United Kingdom and France declared the war to Germany in the WWII and told they would help Poland. If I'm right the only help were some British ships, that didn't do much. If the US government is going to go on like they're going now I don't think their army would even have enough money to help Poland. Even though there is indeed going a lot of money to innovation, a lot of parts are not in the fine state they want us to believe. A lot of old equipment is in use and since the US is currently on the road to bankruptcy I think the JSF is one of the last new projects for the army before it needs to shrink. The recession isn't ended yet, it has just started.

Pizdzius · 08-19-2008, 08:20 PM

Yest, I don't think you know exactly what we are going to have installed. A small set of rockets. No threat for Russia and they know it. It's for disarm in air, not shooting airplanes.

Anpu · 08-20-2008, 08:25 AM

I heard those rocket sites are part of American shield to protect their land from possible Russia strike (since they have too many nukes and American "inner" shield is not too efficient against full attack) and maybe Iran. So they are just using relations with Western Europe to use countries closer to Russia to intercept missiles and protect USA from rockets and possible disaster that can be done in such actions.

Also about USA weapons, I agree with Yest. They are taking part in world operations and doing invasions to spend some old stock of weapons that needs to enhance and replace.
JSF was last thing I ve also heard thats is rolling. Lockeed Martin(part of Boeing now, hope I spelled it good) made 1 good prototype with no pilot driving plane in cabin but from Earth station. Plane looked quite cool must say, not standard looking like others are.
Also, making F22 Raptor had problems during developing while Russians with even problems with military budget, made Su 47 that had better performance and radar invisibility matching with F 22. Not totally better, but had some better things, that made F22 developing team bit worrying (angles etc)

Overall, none of the sides learned from striking Japan at WW2 with such weapons. With every year, human beings are worse and worse, thinking more of their ass than on place where they live and around them. I mean, no one cares that south Romania is now able to have tropical fruits because of climate that is totally changed because of polutions.
Sometimes I would really like they all launch rockets and we die all, better then fighting and destroying planet every day. Its our only home, we cant escape anywhere. Even Mars has water, its not ready yet to accept people as new home, but none think about it but how to be dominant in world and be some "big power" with rockets in pockets.

Maybe all this sounds retarded, but I really think so. Watching news and politicians both home and foreign, make me sick of it. Too many lies, grins, shaking hands and disasters in same time.

Pizdzius · 08-20-2008, 11:33 AM

oh Anpu, I know what you think really. But their plan is, to strike us down with nukes. There's a monument in USA saying that people should be exterminated in 80% of population.

The truth is, it's mostly our fault what those who own power do. Most of normal people fall for their traps, promises etc. WE never learn.

-Edge- · 08-20-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Yest

The United Kingdom and France declared the war to Germany in the WWII and told they would help Poland. If I'm right the only help were some British ships, that didn't do much.

First of all

I use this as an example alot in my "Why Britian sucks" (American vs Britain conflict

)conversations.

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If the US government is going to go on like they're going now I don't think their army would even have enough money to help Poland. Even though there is indeed going a lot of money to innovation, a lot of parts are not in the fine state they want us to believe. A lot of old equipment is in use and since the US is currently on the road to bankruptcy I think the JSF is one of the last new projects for the army before it needs to shrink. The recession isn't ended yet, it has just started.

Ok now for seriousness, I think the USA knows what its doing, clearly they will be using Poland more now as a place to have good control in Europe, just like with Istanbul.

Russia is the one that's over reacting, saying Poland would actually ATTACK something is like saying.... haha saying that George Bush would go tuba diving with Osama Bin Laden (Though he has)

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Originally Posted by Anpu

I heard those rocket sites are part of American shield to protect their land from possible Russia strike (since they have too many nukes and American "inner" shield is not too efficient against full attack) and maybe Iran. So they are just using relations with Western Europe to use countries closer to Russia to intercept missiles and protect USA from rockets and possible disaster that can be done in such actions.

The Cold War is over my friend, there are already plenty of places to protect both Russia and the USA from attack. They would not go out into the public with stuff like this if it was to build another defense for America.

Also if that was the case Russia would be mad at the USA not Poland.

08-18-2008, 09:08 PM	#31
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08-18-2008, 09:29 PM	#32
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08-19-2008, 08:06 PM	#36
Ertial Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Friesland, the Netherlands Posts: 298	The United States aren't making things better with this rocket shield. Like said before it isn't very powerful against attacks on a large scale, but it is threatening the Russians. Currently the NATO can't extend their military infrastructure in Poland and other Eastern European countries. If the EU won't loosen their relation with the United States, it will be very hard for Sarkozy to get real peace. Currently Bush seems way to eager to go to war; at least he speaks like the Cold War is coming back. The promise to Poland that the US would protect them isn't something I'd trust very much. The United Kingdom and France declared the war to Germany in the WWII and told they would help Poland. If I'm right the only help were some British ships, that didn't do much. If the US government is going to go on like they're going now I don't think their army would even have enough money to help Poland. Even though there is indeed going a lot of money to innovation, a lot of parts are not in the fine state they want us to believe. A lot of old equipment is in use and since the US is currently on the road to bankruptcy I think the JSF is one of the last new projects for the army before it needs to shrink. The recession isn't ended yet, it has just started. __________________ Ubuntu, Linux for human beings hunter Ertial Rye Inquisition!

08-19-2008, 08:20 PM	#37
Pizdzius Baron Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Polish Side of RA Posts: 779	Yest, I don't think you know exactly what we are going to have installed. A small set of rockets. No threat for Russia and they know it. It's for disarm in air, not shooting airplanes. __________________ Pizdzius Swedzioszek Leader of CBA Regnum Comic <- my Regnum Comic , RSS version -> RSS (if you wish to contact me on my other realm character: Ignis - Josephine)

08-20-2008, 08:25 AM	#38
Anpu Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,186	I heard those rocket sites are part of American shield to protect their land from possible Russia strike (since they have too many nukes and American "inner" shield is not too efficient against full attack) and maybe Iran. So they are just using relations with Western Europe to use countries closer to Russia to intercept missiles and protect USA from rockets and possible disaster that can be done in such actions. Also about USA weapons, I agree with Yest. They are taking part in world operations and doing invasions to spend some old stock of weapons that needs to enhance and replace. JSF was last thing I ve also heard thats is rolling. Lockeed Martin(part of Boeing now, hope I spelled it good) made 1 good prototype with no pilot driving plane in cabin but from Earth station. Plane looked quite cool must say, not standard looking like others are. Also, making F22 Raptor had problems during developing while Russians with even problems with military budget, made Su 47 that had better performance and radar invisibility matching with F 22. Not totally better, but had some better things, that made F22 developing team bit worrying (angles etc) Overall, none of the sides learned from striking Japan at WW2 with such weapons. With every year, human beings are worse and worse, thinking more of their ass than on place where they live and around them. I mean, no one cares that south Romania is now able to have tropical fruits because of climate that is totally changed because of polutions. Sometimes I would really like they all launch rockets and we die all, better then fighting and destroying planet every day. Its our only home, we cant escape anywhere. Even Mars has water, its not ready yet to accept people as new home, but none think about it but how to be dominant in world and be some "big power" with rockets in pockets. Maybe all this sounds retarded, but I really think so. Watching news and politicians both home and foreign, make me sick of it. Too many lies, grins, shaking hands and disasters in same time. __________________ Inquisition

08-20-2008, 11:33 AM	#39
Pizdzius Baron Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Polish Side of RA Posts: 779	oh Anpu, I know what you think really. But their plan is, to strike us down with nukes. There's a monument in USA saying that people should be exterminated in 80% of population. The truth is, it's mostly our fault what those who own power do. Most of normal people fall for their traps, promises etc. WE never learn. __________________ Pizdzius Swedzioszek Leader of CBA Regnum Comic <- my Regnum Comic , RSS version -> RSS (if you wish to contact me on my other realm character: Ignis - Josephine)