Retaliation and Evasion

Gideon_Slack · 10-18-2008, 12:15 PM

If you cast the Archer Trick spell Retaliation, but you happen to evade the next attack your opponent makes -- is the spell cancelled with zero damage returned?

Or is it only the next landed blow that is counted?

Znurre · 10-18-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gideon_Slack

If you cast the Archer Trick spell Retaliation, but you happen to evade the next attack your opponent makes -- is the spell cancelled with zero damage returned?

Or is it only the next landed blow that is counted?

The spell is cancelled with zero damage returned.

_dracus_ · 10-18-2008, 01:34 PM

The spell returns all the dmg of the first attacks, which means if the first hit is evade, your ennemy evade the retaliation.

Gideon_Slack · 10-19-2008, 01:40 AM

Hmm...retaliation doesn't seem so great anymore.

Do many Archers actually use this skill, and in what circumstances?

ncvr · 10-19-2008, 01:44 AM

IMO best against warlocks. Unless they're SM.

Torg_Snowflake · 10-19-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gideon_Slack

Hmm...retaliation doesn't seem so great anymore.

Do many Archers actually use this skill, and in what circumstances?

I think this spell is a reward for those who avoid being evasion-junkies. If you have very high evade chance, this skill wont work at it's full.

Miriya_PS · 10-19-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gideon_Slack

If you cast the Archer Trick spell Retaliation, but you happen to evade the next attack your opponent makes -- is the spell cancelled with zero damage returned?

Or is it only the next landed blow that is counted?

If you evade or get hit by a non damage spell (ambush, feint, confuse, etc.) retaliation is lost.
MegriM said that even if Retaliation is cast on yourself, it is an offensive damage spell and every damage spell must have chance of evasion.

I agree, Retaliation is a very good spell, specially against predictable players. I think it is ok, because it is not easy to use but very effective when used right (as any good spell should be).

Foggia · 10-19-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gideon_Slack

Hmm...retaliation doesn't seem so great anymore.

Do many Archers actually use this skill, and in what circumstances?

Ask compost, he uses it, afaik.
And I think this spell is deadly against barbs.

Comp · 10-19-2008, 01:42 PM

Yes, I use it from time-to-time depending on how I'm configured. Sometimes I'll drop my evasion way low and pick up retalliation. The spell is AWESEOM against non-staff mastery mages, knights and barbs. Also, you can time this spell perfectly when you see a marks using a slow bow. If you decide to use retalliation I'd suggest lvl 3 or 4.

BTW, there's been several south-cross monkeys kill themselves hitting me

King_Of_Angmar · 10-21-2008, 01:13 PM

i use retal a lot against barbs, its very effective against people who are constant SCers and Riposters

10-18-2008, 12:15 PM	#1
Gideon_Slack Master Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 264	Retaliation and Evasion If you cast the Archer Trick spell Retaliation, but you happen to evade the next attack your opponent makes -- is the spell cancelled with zero damage returned? Or is it only the next landed blow that is counted? __________________ Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology

10-18-2008, 01:34 PM	#3
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	The spell returns all the dmg of the first attacks, which means if the first hit is evade, your ennemy evade the retaliation. __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

10-19-2008, 01:40 AM	#4
Gideon_Slack Master Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 264	Hmm...retaliation doesn't seem so great anymore. Do many Archers actually use this skill, and in what circumstances? __________________ Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology

10-19-2008, 01:42 PM	#9
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	Yes, I use it from time-to-time depending on how I'm configured. Sometimes I'll drop my evasion way low and pick up retalliation. The spell is AWESEOM against non-staff mastery mages, knights and barbs. Also, you can time this spell perfectly when you see a marks using a slow bow. If you decide to use retalliation I'd suggest lvl 3 or 4. BTW, there's been several south-cross monkeys kill themselves hitting me __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...)

10-19-2008, 01:44 AM	#5
ncvr Marquis Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,439	IMO best against warlocks. Unless they're SM.

10-21-2008, 01:13 PM	#10
King_Of_Angmar Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wherever lag has Teleported me Posts: 99	i use retal a lot against barbs, its very effective against people who are constant SCers and Riposters