Macros

[Kittypretty]

ok the ones that are doing it are the french clan in ra syrtis,

have caught 2 members doing it so far from that clan..this really needs to be addressed. ill send another report along with the names.

so far ive gotten them aggroed and killed while they aura spam themselves to death so i KNOW they arent playing.

if this is a form of griefing then sorry but you all need to play legit.

[save_the_trees]

Actually, how do you want to really know if somebody is only pressing aura buttons himself or if he wrote some code to programmatically press some buttons. I mean, there are many means of cheating which can be proven, especially those related to network traffic, but I doubt that you can ban somebody because he is only standing at one place spamming auras 24/7 although you personally know that he just can't be playing himself. Just getting some mobs aggro on such ppl to stop their xp leeching seems to be the right way to go imo.

And anyway: those grinding spots where you can do this are just quite unattractive 80% of the time for all people who don't intend to level by spamming anything useless imo. There are far better places once you are levelling in a small group and probably even have some kind of support, especially in wz. (I can't tell for Ignis but Alsius has too few mobs/too bad respawn rate even for 2 or 3 ppl at those altar spots while in Syrtis there used to be many ppl feeling too lazy to look for mobs somewhere else, resulting in really too big bunches camping those spots. In both cases the xp per time is just horrible ^^)

[Kittypretty]

because this guy was standing in the same spot for hours (popular leech spot but it happened to be empty at the time)

so i watched him and even tried messaging/speaking with him.

observed he repeated the same movements over and over with no change in pattern.

and when we got him aggroed, would a person who was there simply spam more auras while he was beaten to death? he also remained dead for quite along time (till he got back and found out he wasnt earning xp i assume)

the problem is, you often cannot aggro these people when its during peak hours, as their are often 10-20 syrtis there grinding, attacking anything in sight..so the cheater remains safe and earning xp for every kill.

i agree about the better grinding spots without a doubt, ive never grinded there, but seeing someone spam alone for hours when everones left still irks me, and its just plain lazy, why even bother playing then.

[-Leonzio-]

It would be enough to allow the use of more and different shortcuts.
CTRL + < any >
CTRL + SHIFT + < any >

Moreover, the buttons stripe is also too short.

Leo

[Slowlywerot]

Hello todos!
Thirst sorry for my english or my spanglish,the two are very bad.
In game, I am World Demise, perhaps some of you know me or go to hunt with me.
A friend tell me there is a post in this forum who concern French and macros.I read it and what i see French,French people,French clan....
Hummm...I'm French and when you talk about French people you speak about me and my friends so i would say to you 2 things:

1-if you see any person use macro tell it when he is not afk or send a mail to ngd abuse even if he is not french you know.

I have a hunt 50 ,for the macro it's not a good class,a marks lvl 50 ,my scrolling pt,I have use a lot of scroll for it but you know a scroll is a legal cheat,a warlock lvl 38 or 39,I doesn't play a lot whit it because my macro is not enough efficient and a barbarian lvl 33,I have made it to help a friend who have a conj low lvl , perhaps I am his macro.
But by the past when I am ginding my characters in grinding spot,I see all the class with areas (knight,conj,....) make areas and never make one hit on the mobs.
Macro or not?I don't know,but when you are only 2 in a party to hit mobs,it's very frustrating.
Now,I grinding in WZ and often alone.
The only french without macro, I'm not sure!

2-

Apparently French people have even written a tracking script which shows you everything communicated by the server to the client (treasures, people less than 70m away with health, range, and direction)

I'm not good enough to make that.
I have this script with a range of 250m and not 70m,his name "Enemy Surveillance" but he doesn't work as well.
You could have some surprise if you use it.
I invite you to come at pb2 (we are here all days) to hunt with the French Clan and see by yourself if we use any script.

I'm hunting all days in Ignis and I see sometimes some strange things like a hunt camu who runs 250m in 3s,a marks who runs faster than a horse or a barb who pass through the walls of shana and kill me.
What do I do?send a mail at ngd abuse,make a post on forum,connect an ignis character for saying "cheater,cheater,cheater,..."
No, I prefer to kill them several times to show them that their cheating is not as good as they think.

You also speak about the French Clan let me tell you what I think about the French Clan.
I'm proud of the clan who fight at pb2 (the road to eferia for the ignis),with less ppl than the enemies, for prevent the capture of eferia, when at the same times there are 30 ppl afk at CS!
I'm proud of the clan while leaving all its members to express its opinion in the conduct and actions and not let one person lead.
I'm proud of the clan that has good relations with other clans and do not hesitate to help when they ask.
So stop saying that the french clan is absolute evil.

Stop to make generalities with individualities!

It was my first post and I think the last.
For me, the subject is closed,I tell you all all that I want to say to you.

P.S: don't forget we wait you at pb2.

[AMPZORD]

WD, i think you are tottaly right, plenty people are always criticizing the french, don't know why..
btw, sorry that this last months im not on because i got excited in CS trying to get the rhytim of RO.
gl keep with the good hunt.

[BoRoMiR-TuK]

I totally agree with "World Demise"! .. I know him well and although I am not French, I am with them, because I am going hunting with them every day and I've never seen such thing! On the contrary, I show how good they are in the game, help me to configure my powers .. Have a good setup I do not think is a crime, this means that if you have a good configuration to use either your character, I certify that, and if we do not believe? therefore come to pb2, says "World" to see the difference of being a cheat to be a Groso! .. greetings!

[chassor]

ok first of all i'm french and maybe the worst of them (i hope , wish)

this post is very annoying and useless, ok let admit that all frenchs (french bashing is in since a moment) use those macro to lvl , why did that annoy you ?

does faster lvling remove you something ???? lvl is boring boring boring, i lvled my 2 cars with scrolls without scrolls i will never reached lvl50, why didn't you came here to whine about scrolls ???

i personnaly made 3 abuse report (real cheaters on pvp) to NGD but ngd did NOTHING about those players. i got screwed by the magna cheat NGD did nothing against the robber (the scammer didn't got the items removed from nor i did got the magna (they says they does a secure trade but you know how it works with ngd , things got fixed until the next bug is discovered).


it is funny that you come here to compliant about the rules , but the forums rules says that you should not name sucpected cheaters on forums , ok you don't give a name you just put all french players in the same bag (but everyone knows that we are just a bunch of ......).

now i can understand that NGD can be pissed of by those people who lvl faster without paying , but if they do anything about this they MUST return me the items the magna scammer got from me, they CAN'T care about the "possible" money they "lose" and don't give a sh*t about the money I lost !!!

but i really don't understand why that those possible macro users bother you !!!!

PS: funny thing for the last cheater report i said to NGD to do something and to not just thanks me about the report (usually they send a thanks msg) and they listen to me , i never got any thanks msg but the cheater is still online ... (this guy was able to hit me when i was camu , and this is not about the camu bug because i camued far from him, they we're 4 and just 1 hits me several times, i send them screenshots)

[Kittypretty]

old post but,

let me say, i didnt mention anyone by name, just their clan tages were both of a french clan, and both macroing afk, coincidence? who knows, who cares WHO they are, they could have been my own clan and i would have reported them, so stop trying to make this out as something entirely against a certain clan or nationality geez.

about macroing, hmm, lets see, why play a game then if you dont want to play it like everyone else? if you want to level fast, use scrolls and boosters and actually sit and play the game, i never said anything bad about them afaik. why do you think you have the right to cheat because actually playing the game bores you?

alot of the people from that same clan have seemed quite nice, but honestly, it makes you look bad if even one of your members does this, it labels you as cheaters, do you want that? i wouldnt..sounds like a in clan problem you need to deal with, since i am not sure NGD will even respond to this thread with an official statement on their views of macros in game.
if they allow it then fine, do it all you want, just from coming from other mmorpgs, they usually have very strict policies against them.


"But by the past when I am ginding my characters in grinding spot,I see all the class with areas (knight,conj,....) make areas and never make one hit on the mobs.
Macro or not?I don't know,but when you are only 2 in a party to hit mobs,it's very frustrating"

yes it is, and thats what bugs me Chassor, how someone leeches off others peoples hard work around them. and thats exactly what this guy was doing.

others there made REPEATED attempts to talk with him to tell him to stop, even in spanish, and mi espanol es malo but even i can understand when they start going jajaja and macro! and generally everyone there with a brain knew what the hell he was doing but they couldnt stop his leeching because they did want to grind..so yes they were forced to give him xp while he did nothing to help (deflecting barrier on melee mobs, great help dude!)
so yes i aggroed him and made him die, as he was hit he kept spamming auras, did not fight back. did he respawn? nope..he laid there for an hour, funny to do that if he was actually there you think?

[chassor]

oh it is more clear now , you are pissed of because they're aura we're useless , if it was a conju doing the same you we're very happy with it !

so this is not about macros but about leeching !

it will be pissed me of too , but i will never report that anyways , what they get in xp you reget it in the GRP so ... not a big deal !

sorry but i'm in holidays these day so it takes me time to answer!