Calling all emo kids and prog-rockers

backe · 10-23-2009, 12:29 AM

So I have a bit of a debate with a co-worker, and I need the opinions of "younger" people.

So would you guys consider Coheed and Cambria prog-rock or emo?

And please, no wikipedia garbage, that's been omitted from the bet.

Mattdoesrock · 10-23-2009, 12:33 AM

Between the two Prog-rock is more suiting, in my mind they're more... Maybe Alternative (?) But anyway, certainly not emo.

Klutu · 10-23-2009, 12:56 AM

Coheed and Cambria

are Progressive Metal/Rock imo

I love there Maiden Cover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDryjvqO0_I

This is Emo Music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZrhRcp3pBA

Kill the little Sissies!

Dannboy · 10-23-2009, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backe

So I have a bit of a debate with a co-worker, and I need the opinions of "younger" people.

So would you guys consider Coheed and Cambria prog-rock or emo?

And please, no wikipedia garbage, that's been omitted from the bet.

Progressive for sure, emos is different. A mix between death, punk, heavy and alternative metal, mixed with a little "disco" in newer versions. ^^
I think My Chemical Romance is a emo band trying to express themselves. I think they're doing something wrong tho XD
This is newer emo music, what I call Emo-Nerd music. Used in almost all gaming videos, especially World Of Warcraft.
Straight To Video
14 year old headbanger here.

Btw, I'm NOT emo, I listen to Nu-Metal ^^ I just learned my lesson in heavy music.

-Edge- · 10-23-2009, 06:00 AM

Id rather say that's AlternRock, Post Grunge slightly. If they are emo then Seether, Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, Alter Bridge, Dark New Day, and Egypt Central are blah blah.

I see where the emo comments can come from though, the vocals ARE stretched a little too much.

Ulmanyar · 10-23-2009, 10:37 AM

Well, it sure has many things in common with the prog scene. Too many to not concider it progressive: the "randomness" of some riffs, the way they use high pitched harmonics, the length and diversity of the song. Those are elements not as common in "emo music" (whatever that is?), at least not from my experience. Also, as many progressive rock/metal, they have a lot of choir and concert song. But they are definately on the "emo" side of the prog scene, if such side exisist - especially as a result of the effects on the song. Even if I know I've heard something like that in a undoubtely prog metal song (that I can't remember right now).

But then again, please remember that many of the prog metal/rock bands are much more "emotional" than both the oil soaked and the dragon slaying metal bands out there. Especially if they are more of prog rock than prog metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxLaf3y6sDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHgrma1JM2Q

No, you won't understand the setting if you watch the first video. And yes, it takes like four minutes before he starts to sing in the second video.

theotherhiveking · 10-23-2009, 12:39 PM

Prog rock.

backe · 10-23-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

Between the two Prog-rock is more suiting, in my mind they're more... Maybe Alternative (?) But anyway, certainly not emo.

That's what I think, but alternative might be a bit too broad(?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Edge-

I see where the emo comments can come from though, the vocals ARE stretched a little too much.

Yeah, you are definitely right about that. Oddly enough, live, the lead singer sounds totally different than the studio stuff.

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Originally Posted by Ulmanyar

Well, it sure has many things in common with the prog scene. Too many to not concider it progressive: the "randomness" of some riffs, the way they use high pitched harmonics, the length and diversity of the song. Those are elements not as common in "emo music" (whatever that is?), at least not from my experience. Also, as many progressive rock/metal, they have a lot of choir and concert song. But they are definately on the "emo" side of the prog scene, if such side exisist - especially as a result of the effects on the song.

I totally agree. The syncopation and changes in time signature certainly makes me think they are leaning more towards the progressive side, but the vocals and some of the lyrics make me think emo. I guess the big problem I have is my definition of "emo" is somewhat blurry and I've always thought it was more of a sub-culture and not a musical style. Hell, I may be emo and not even know it!

I guess I can tell her that a group of experts has said that Coheed and Cambria fall on the side of "progressive". Hopefully she doesn't ask for the source.

Thanks guys.

theotherhiveking · 10-23-2009, 03:23 PM

By emo i understand music that tried to wake emotions in the most tear jerker and obvious way, My girlfriend leeee(high)EEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFffffff miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyyyyyyyyyyy

LoveleHaven · 10-23-2009, 06:26 PM

Emo? Not at all.

10-23-2009, 12:29 AM	#1
backe Initiate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 222	Calling all emo kids and prog-rockers So I have a bit of a debate with a co-worker, and I need the opinions of "younger" people. So would you guys consider Coheed and Cambria prog-rock or emo? And please, no wikipedia garbage, that's been omitted from the bet.

10-23-2009, 12:33 AM	#2
Mattdoesrock Count Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, UK. Posts: 1,055	Between the two Prog-rock is more suiting, in my mind they're more... Maybe Alternative (?) But anyway, certainly not emo. __________________ MattdoesJOKE_#40_NOT_FOUND RA / Hor... Haven?

10-23-2009, 12:56 AM	#3
Klutu Baron Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 714	Coheed and Cambria are Progressive Metal/Rock imo I love there Maiden Cover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDryjvqO0_I This is Emo Music! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZrhRcp3pBA Kill the little Sissies! __________________ Ramsli Klutu

10-23-2009, 10:37 AM	#6
Ulmanyar Initiate Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 231	Well, it sure has many things in common with the prog scene. Too many to not concider it progressive: the "randomness" of some riffs, the way they use high pitched harmonics, the length and diversity of the song. Those are elements not as common in "emo music" (whatever that is?), at least not from my experience. Also, as many progressive rock/metal, they have a lot of choir and concert song. But they are definately on the "emo" side of the prog scene, if such side exisist - especially as a result of the effects on the song. Even if I know I've heard something like that in a undoubtely prog metal song (that I can't remember right now). But then again, please remember that many of the prog metal/rock bands are much more "emotional" than both the oil soaked and the dragon slaying metal bands out there. Especially if they are more of prog rock than prog metal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxLaf3y6sDA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHgrma1JM2Q No, you won't understand the setting if you watch the first video. And yes, it takes like four minutes before he starts to sing in the second video. __________________ Ulmanyar Flame of Valhalla Alsius - a few, but we got goats! BAAAAH!

10-23-2009, 12:39 PM	#7
theotherhiveking Count Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,452	Prog rock. __________________ ⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺

10-23-2009, 06:00 AM	#5
-Edge- Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Łódż, Poland Posts: 1,506	Id rather say that's AlternRock, Post Grunge slightly. If they are emo then Seether, Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, Alter Bridge, Dark New Day, and Egypt Central are blah blah. I see where the emo comments can come from though, the vocals ARE stretched a little too much.

10-23-2009, 03:23 PM	#9
theotherhiveking Count Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,452	By emo i understand music that tried to wake emotions in the most tear jerker and obvious way, My girlfriend leeee(high)EEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFffffff miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyyyyyyyyyyy __________________ ⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺

10-23-2009, 06:26 PM	#10
LoveleHaven Initiate Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 200	Emo? Not at all. __________________ Lovele - Active - Haven - Marksman I love rock'n'roll