(Horus) Solution too Population - Page 4

Wikid · 03-07-2010, 04:23 PM

I am still rather torn on the whole situation. It is obvious to me that there is an imbalance in the realms. It is also obvious to me that Ignis as a whole has no desire to actually try and defend their fort during the day/afternoon (EST for me) when they are usually being farmed.

For the longest time it was Alsius at Menirah every day, with Syrtis at Samal occasionally thrown. I would go out there, and after giving up my RP quota, I would ragequit and go back to grinding. When I get to Meleketi beach (lvl 44+ grinders) there are no less than 6 people there on any given afternoon. It is usually so populated that grinding is pointless.

On multiple occasions I have asked why they haven't stopped for 5 min to come help at the fort that has been held for A COUPLE HOURS now. Their response, "Why? They'll just take it again."

If Ignis as a whole actually cared and showed up in numbers to defend our forts, maybe we would stop being picked on so much. As much as we talk crap about the other realms, I'm sure people over there actually understand common sense, and will eventually say, "Wait, we just got overtaken 3 times... lets go pick on Alsius."

With that said, if NGD can provide some evidence that we are underpopulated, I'd be more than willing to accept some sort of fix

bois · 03-07-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

I love the idea of a realm change scroll, but I have another concern to add. I have seen it multiple times in Ignis, not sure if the same problem occurs in Alsius and Syrtis. The majority of players in Ignis hate multirealmers, and sometimes even someone who has switched to Ignis. They swear at the person, tell them to f*** off back to goat/gelf land. I would be worried that someone that switched realms to Ignis would be treated like dirt as well.

Just a thought, It could be a large problem though.

Depends on when you log in and your behaviour on the realm chat. I can say for sure that Mirage and its players accept people from other realms. I don't think it is fair to lump the whole realm in one basket for the actions of a few.

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I am still rather torn on the whole situation. It is obvious to me that there is an imbalance in the realms. It is also obvious to me that Ignis as a whole has no desire to actually try and defend their fort during the day/afternoon (EST for me) when they are usually being farmed.

Ignis is not what it used to be. If you get a group of veterans on at the same time you will see what the Old Ignis is like. Sadly , less and less are coming on together and when small pockets come on they get frustrated and jaded by what they see.
Ignis is accustomed to forming tight and coordinated attack patterns that are tried tested and proven. Players know each other's skills and setups and depend on each other to deliver results. Nowadays there is just a steady procession of :
1.rush the fort
2. Die
3 Resurrect
4. rinse and repeat

Nobody in the new generation actually has any patience to stop for a second and listen to any tactical plans put forward, much less stick to the plan. This frustrates veterans who are used to a well oiled war machine. They then either stand and watch the massacre or just fall back to Shaanarid or go grind. I suppose there are many reasons for this but the focus is that our players just are not team oriented as before. Also we lack solid leadership. Say what you must but Efrendi, Llayne and sometimes Lexen were the only ones to ever get Ignis to work together regularly. We lost that now and the vacuum is obvious. We still have a lot of veterans but the new players don't know them and are just unwilling to listen to any one. Ignis is now in the era of the suicider. Veteran Ignis teams of 10 used to feel like 20+. Now a team of 10 feels like 6.
I suppose we are to blame. New players don't know how to skill a character, what the stats mean, how to balance your character, weapon pros and cons, class strengths and weaknesses, what the armours look like and the stats, what powers do and importantly observe their realm mates to learn tactics.
All of this would have to fall on the shoulders of the veterans I suppose. I do what I can with my clan mates and I suppose the others do to some extent too but, this brings up another point. There are now many "unattached" players. Who do they learn from ?

Artec

Syrtisa · 03-08-2010, 03:39 AM

Yep ! Punti has 100000% right...
We can talk when we see numbers, which measures __active__ ppl within 1 month hour by hour... cos my game experience is bit different ....so often our "over populated 1000+ zerg" cannot take camped fort cos there is too many ppl inside, not mention Europe night time when "underpopulated" realms invades us with their zerg... many ppl have inactive Syrtis accounts so accounts number cannot say a thing...

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03-07-2010, 04:23 PM	#31
Wikid Pledge Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 47	I am still rather torn on the whole situation. It is obvious to me that there is an imbalance in the realms. It is also obvious to me that Ignis as a whole has no desire to actually try and defend their fort during the day/afternoon (EST for me) when they are usually being farmed. For the longest time it was Alsius at Menirah every day, with Syrtis at Samal occasionally thrown. I would go out there, and after giving up my RP quota, I would ragequit and go back to grinding. When I get to Meleketi beach (lvl 44+ grinders) there are no less than 6 people there on any given afternoon. It is usually so populated that grinding is pointless. On multiple occasions I have asked why they haven't stopped for 5 min to come help at the fort that has been held for A COUPLE HOURS now. Their response, "Why? They'll just take it again." If Ignis as a whole actually cared and showed up in numbers to defend our forts, maybe we would stop being picked on so much. As much as we talk crap about the other realms, I'm sure people over there actually understand common sense, and will eventually say, "Wait, we just got overtaken 3 times... lets go pick on Alsius." With that said, if NGD can provide some evidence that we are underpopulated, I'd be more than willing to accept some sort of fix

03-08-2010, 03:39 AM	#33
Syrtisa Pledge Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 29	Yep ! Punti has 100000% right... We can talk when we see numbers, which measures __active__ ppl within 1 month hour by hour... cos my game experience is bit different ....so often our "over populated 1000+ zerg" cannot take camped fort cos there is too many ppl inside, not mention Europe night time when "underpopulated" realms invades us with their zerg... many ppl have inactive Syrtis accounts so accounts number cannot say a thing...