Regarding Marksmen and SotW.

[mrclean]

Originally Posted by Valorius

I PVP'd Yoseba tonight. I think he probably had about 5% health left when i died. It was a good fight. But i don't see how a properly set up marksman (ie one optimized for pvping against warriors) could lose to a warrior without really bad luck.

With acrobat 5, defensive tactics 5, and strategic position 5 you only take like 15-20% of normal damage. My arrows literally do 30-40 dmg vs "full defensive" marksmen(the same arrows do 300+ vs mages).

Sorry, but I don't see yoseba as a good example... I really think it's a matter of skills, setup and of course luck. If my mind squasher works, well there's few a marksman can do. I trip/feint ribs break him and shield bash while immobilized. Usually this is more than enough to bring him down. Barbarians have nice combos, I love to fight with Znurre, he uses the brain, nice dizzying and debuffing spells and nice 60 seconds of unstoppable madness. I see my pvps with him pretty balanced but we rely both on mind squasher.

And for the marksman vs warrior matter: what if death sentence got blocked? What if death sentence works but the warrior reach less than 4 metres distance from him? Without SotW, I would mind squasher him if fails do some other tactic and retry when I can, then if works bye bye marks... If you don't have mind squasher, well it's your fault cause actually it doesn't mean mind squasher is overpowered or marksman is overpowered, means that you have a setup that is not so good to fight him (or probably also a lack of skills).

I don't know so good other classes, but I almost always hunted with gpomal, I know his style, I learnt a lot from him and I can say that just warlocks are not a problem for a marksman, but I can't judge so far simply cause I don't know well the warlock class.

It's true, in fort wars Marksmen have advantage simply cause they can stand far away from target and hit a lot, but is the same with warlocks and their areas then when marksmen will be nerfed you'll complain about terror? No one is doing this, but someone instead is complaining about deflecting barrier. And this one can be avoided going close to the target... I hope you will get my point about the "nerf" disease...

EDIT:

Originally Posted by misaccc

Marksman cannot kill a good knight without hit&run...i havent been killed by a marks who didnt use that tactics for months now...mind squash ftw

I was able to defeat them quite good also with a nice combo of southcross/disable limb no hit and run as well ^^