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Old 01-20-2010, 12:42 AM   #20
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I understand your post... Yes, ignean archers have a hard time fulfilling their support role... However, Dupa.. You're Wrong! it is not because the suck or because they do not know their role in war. I'd put my money on Most Ignean archers before i put it on a Syrtis archer.... You know Why they can't lay down this "supressing fire"? because they are outnumbered.... Sure a marks can cancel a terror with Burst of wind... But can 1 marks cancel 3 terrors?
I don't want single marks to do whole job. As lock i try to cancel other lock as much as i can, i just don't see many archers even pretending doing anything.

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Sure, a hunter can ambush a warlock about to drop a terror... But 2 Terrors? Sure, A marksman can force a few players to considering retreating.... But can 4-5 Archers force a zerg of 25+ with pylons galor to even consider retreating?... Once again i think not. SO, before you start critizing Our archers... Consider the circumstances that surround them....
Once again. I DO NOT want them to do whole job. I just want them to do SOMETHING. A good start would be to not stay in friggin center, where they can only collect sultars.

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I think Our archers do great btw
I don't know if it was my post or accident. Yes, today some archer saved my ass with properly casted ambush. Thank you whoever you were.

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by archers do you mean marks or hunters, cos quite frankly hunters suck at fort wars,
Myth, not true. They just need something different than this stupid pet setup. I went on my 34 lvl then, hunter, to aggy and i was able to cancel one lock 3 times in a row. He had no choice but to retreat and to come back DI-ed. Hunters, if played well, are very good stoppers, very useful in fort wars.

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and marks have major mana issues, and from what ive seen, ignis does not have many good marks, i can maybe name about 8 that play well, the rest, maybe do need to learn a bit more, but bringing them down in a post like this doesnt help them one bit imo..
Let me tell you a story. One Ignis-Horus marks got attacked by melee guard, being on lock I spotted that and came to help. First i casted ivy, to give him a chance to move out. He stood, being bashed by guard. Well he didn't spot opportunity, i thought, and casted beetles, then to help him finish i meteored, or golem fisted (i don't remember which one). Then guard aggroed at me, and what my beloved marks did? Yes, left me alone with f*** guard. Similar situation happened to me twice, with the same person, a person that is respected as a marks, a member of respected clan. This is how i find our marks. Selfish. Selfish is far from team play. Coming to mana issues. Enemy marks beat the hell out of me hitting me normals and crits, and i bet they use Point Shot and Eagle Eye. So maybe ours should do similar, sparing rest of mana for critical situations.

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marks dont have ensare, its a slow down spell for runners.....but they do freeze, then get yelled at for screwing with someones spells...
Yes, and they mostly deserve that yelling, cause they cast wrong spell in wrong time. It can happen to anyone, it happens to me, but ffs, not all the time. What is good in casting winter stroke on enemy lying on the ground, jumped by 3 warriors? And when enemy casted spring or ons, and is starting to pull away, so WS or ambush would be nice, then such a marks cast serpent bite... Most of them only want to score RP only for themselfs, but enemy runs away and get healed. Sorry monkey no banana.

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i also see no mention of the really bad knights, barbs, warjus (for the love of god, you want to kill stuff, play a lock ) locks and barbs...we all have players that lack in thier abilities, in all realms, so i suggest more encouragement and less dissin...
Because there are not many really bad barbs, locks, or knights. Playing damage dealer is no rocket science. Warjus are other story they are next to useles, but playing them is fun. How can I encourage noob that has been told three times that he played bad, and he continues to do so? I can only yell or keep quiet. I choose second option in most of cases.
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