Sexist Reloaded

tak · 08-07-2008, 05:54 PM

Cheer up people, it's just a videogame.

How can you say it is degrading to women? If you don't want to walk like that in real life, don't.
All your political correctness is making me gag.

I hope you never have any more important problems in life than getting excited about the walking animation of a video game.

Valorius · 08-07-2008, 05:57 PM

Well you'll just have to forgive the girls who play regnum for not wanting to be hounded by horney teen-aged boys. For the record, i think PC is crap too.

tak · 08-07-2008, 06:02 PM

I do not condone sexual harassment, it's just that the whole issue seems to me to have been blown completely out of proportion.

I'd estimate 90% of all female chars ingame are played by males, if a woman would get harassed she could just a) /ignore or b) send a screenshot to abuse@ngd

EDIT: I'll just add this after reading what chilko said, a woman walking in a sexy way happy with her body is a good thing imo. Banning that from all our lives, be it because of personal insecurities or puritanic values is sad to me. Being harassed for it is neither the womans nor the walks fault, but the fault of the male who cannot handle it in a grownup fashion.

Before the walk even was established, the female chars had very clinging garments that showed breasts and behinds, should i now complain to NGD that women ingame should wear some kind of bourka so these details do not lead to harassment?

Valorius · 08-07-2008, 06:08 PM

The people doing the loudest complaining in this thread are women though. Not boys playing girls.

Women tend to over-react and get emotional about things. You may have noticed that in the females in your life over the years? One thing women really don't like is to be leered at.

This new highly suggestive walk will definitely encourage teen aged boys to do what they do best- act like dumbasses.

Fortunately, there is no reason to use the walk feature in almost any case.

tak · 08-07-2008, 06:16 PM

I understand that the walk may induce harassment, or make female players feel being leered at.

I just wished they wouldn't make such a big fuss out of it beforehand and instead deal with any harassment when it occurs, since sadly enough there are boys who will leer at anything even remotely female.

Will removing the walk stop that? No.

Valorius · 08-07-2008, 06:45 PM

There's simply no need to have the female characters walking around looking like sluts, encouraging harassing behavior.

So girls, run everywhere.

-Edge- · 08-07-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Valorius

The people doing the loudest complaining in this thread are women though. Not boys playing girls.

Women tend to over-react and get emotional about things. You may have noticed that in the females in your life over the years? One thing women really don't like is to be leered at.

This new highly suggestive walk will definitely encourage teen aged boys to do what they do best- act like dumbasses.

Fortunately, there is no reason to use the walk feature in almost any case.

Another detail of women is it takes one to start something, then the rest of the coop follows.

History Fact

HEY THERE KIDDIES! Did you know that in America, women fought for over 100 years for the right to vote? Then when they got the right to vote, 1/8th of them actually vote

CumeriTarenes · 08-07-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tak

Will removing the walk stop that? No.

Will removing the walk make many female players more happy with design of their characters? Will removing the walk make many women not feeling hurt? Yes.

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Originally Posted by Valorius

The people doing the loudest complaining in this thread are women though. Not boys playing girls.

Of course, because women feel more hurt by it because it degrades them in some kind. I am sure most men actually like the way female characters are walking.

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Originally Posted by Valorius

Women tend to over-react and get emotional about things. You may have noticed that in the females in your life over the years?

I know some males that can be very emotional in game. They yell around and tend to insult people that don't do what they want them to do....
You do nothing more than feeding a stereotype about women here.

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Originally Posted by Valorius

This new highly suggestive walk will definitely encourage teen aged boys to do what they do best- act like dumbasses.

Fortunately, there is no reason to use the walk feature in almost any case.

I agree on both of this.

Problem with this new walking animation is that it is designed in a way how men want women to walk. That's why many women feel reduced to some kind of sex object.

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Originally Posted by Rated_R_Edge

HEY THERE KIDDIES!

Told by a kid itself....

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Originally Posted by Rated_R_Edge

Did you know that in America, women fought for over 100 years for the right to vote? Then when they got the right to vote, 1/8th of them actually vote

So women should not be allowed to vote?

kylor · 08-07-2008, 08:26 PM

I agree that the walking animation is a little overdone. I wouldn't call it slutty though.

It'd be fine if it were just toned down a little. Some flair in the movement makes it look more interesting, and I would still choose this over the old walking which looked a little awkward.

I think the sitting animation is actually worse, that looks like such an uncomfortable way to sit.

Miraculix · 08-07-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rated_R_Edge

HEY THERE KIDDIES!

hey there grandpa!

oh no wait you're 12.

On topic: The new walk is over the top, it's too flashy for BOTH sexes. Pay attention to the male forward walk and you'll see.

I have no aesthetic issue with that though as I dont really care. It's really nothing compared to other MMOs. But if the women feel offended in any sort of way about this, it should be removed. Not because they are right (they could be, wouldnt know, im a dude), but purely for marketing reasons. The last thing you want is some cliche'd jazzed up feminist spamming other sites about how this game degrades them.

08-07-2008, 06:02 PM	#3
tak Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 309	I do not condone sexual harassment, it's just that the whole issue seems to me to have been blown completely out of proportion. I'd estimate 90% of all female chars ingame are played by males, if a woman would get harassed she could just a) /ignore or b) send a screenshot to abuse@ngd EDIT: I'll just add this after reading what chilko said, a woman walking in a sexy way happy with her body is a good thing imo. Banning that from all our lives, be it because of personal insecurities or puritanic values is sad to me. Being harassed for it is neither the womans nor the walks fault, but the fault of the male who cannot handle it in a grownup fashion. Before the walk even was established, the female chars had very clinging garments that showed breasts and behinds, should i now complain to NGD that women ingame should wear some kind of bourka so these details do not lead to harassment? Last edited by tak; 08-07-2008 at 06:13 PM.

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08-07-2008, 05:54 PM	#1
tak Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 309	Cheer up people, it's just a videogame. How can you say it is degrading to women? If you don't want to walk like that in real life, don't. All your political correctness is making me gag. I hope you never have any more important problems in life than getting excited about the walking animation of a video game.

08-07-2008, 05:57 PM	#2
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	Well you'll just have to forgive the girls who play regnum for not wanting to be hounded by horney teen-aged boys. For the record, i think PC is crap too.

08-07-2008, 06:08 PM	#4
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	The people doing the loudest complaining in this thread are women though. Not boys playing girls. Women tend to over-react and get emotional about things. You may have noticed that in the females in your life over the years? One thing women really don't like is to be leered at. This new highly suggestive walk will definitely encourage teen aged boys to do what they do best- act like dumbasses. Fortunately, there is no reason to use the walk feature in almost any case.

08-07-2008, 06:16 PM	#5
tak Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 309	I understand that the walk may induce harassment, or make female players feel being leered at. I just wished they wouldn't make such a big fuss out of it beforehand and instead deal with any harassment when it occurs, since sadly enough there are boys who will leer at anything even remotely female. Will removing the walk stop that? No.

08-07-2008, 06:45 PM	#6
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	There's simply no need to have the female characters walking around looking like sluts, encouraging harassing behavior. So girls, run everywhere.

08-07-2008, 08:26 PM	#9
kylor Initiate Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 103	I agree that the walking animation is a little overdone. I wouldn't call it slutty though. It'd be fine if it were just toned down a little. Some flair in the movement makes it look more interesting, and I would still choose this over the old walking which looked a little awkward. I think the sitting animation is actually worse, that looks like such an uncomfortable way to sit.