Go Back   Champions of Regnum > English > General discussion

General discussion Topics related to various aspects of Champions of Regnum

View Poll Results: Which class is most overpowered?
Warlocks 27 23.28%
Marksmen 18 15.52%
Conjurors 5 4.31%
Knights 4 3.45%
Hunters 23 19.83%
Barbarians 21 18.10%
General Warriors 2 1.72%
General Mages 1 0.86%
General Archers 15 12.93%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-10-2008, 04:13 PM   #161
magnet
Count
 
magnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: France
Posts: 1,416
magnet is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Signatus
I know Batman, and I know poor lachnload (got to team that fellow up, the "holas" are abusing from his innocence)... and I'll repeat: stop beating pts. Because you ought to be a pt to loose 2V2 fight against a conju and a marks being 2 hunters (one 50 and the other 48?) invisible from start and with pets for Christ sake... and worst, the way you describe it make it sound easy. If you said "Well it was tough but we managed to win." I would understand, bad days happen to invisible-hunters-with-high-lvl-pet-setup, but in 10 sec?! Le Gasp...

Just let Wudy, Comp and Aeron hit the WZ again...
Yeah they certainly are pts...:

First they let their conjus die and they were in Stalker! I know it because after we killed lachnload and crossed the bridge, I saw Batman behind me, I came back, DS'ed him, and he Camoued again, immediately .. my fault, I should have hit with a regular attack rather than DS which required coming in range, but who would think a Hunter who is way higher level than you would simply cast Camou again. At that point, I didn't know there was another Hunter, still in Stalker!

So I cast Ignus Scorch (and as I saw later, it dealt 600 dmg to the poor fellow with DS, even if he was buffed) and got his cyclops and another I aggroed (Elite Cyclops Warrior) on my back. The two hunters used the confusion of 2 pets on me to send me another one. Now the Conjurer with me (who isn't a bad guy, but with a Warjurer skillset) couldn't even target me but the Hunters did. Now since they were out of stalker they weren't buffed and died... yeah in about 10s. Zarkit+DS=pure overpower .

Now I'm not saying there aren't good hunters in game. I wouldn't rape good hunters. I would certainly be very very troublesome even to the best Warlocks, given I evade/resist about half spells (Dodge lv 5 + Spell Eludes lv5) and when they hit me, it's about 50% damage reduc (golem fist lv 5 ~500 hps).

The thing is yoshi that I am myself a Marksman pt, having roughly a few hours of play in the counter, I am not even used to my toolbar, I use only two bows (one fast short and one long slow).

I'm just showcasing that not only this class is overpowered but it's also easy to play, all the more to its overpoweredness.

I'll stop here because some people will very soon start to be really bored (I know Marksmen who have been angry for my anti-marksman propaganda for a long time though so nothing new).

IMHO Marksmen would be more fun to play if it were challenging, if you had to care more for your position (because right now I evade so much I can be in the middle of the melee..) and so on. Once again, my problem is with the Evasion tree.

Cya

PS: if you want pvp your Hunter vs my Marks it will be a pleasure, then you can see how much I resist.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Anpu
+1
I invite you to raise a Warlock to high level and do the same as me. Then tell me, in your soul and conscience, that Warlocks are overpowered.
__________________
magnet no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 04:24 PM   #162
Znurre
Marquis
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: RA
Posts: 1,897
Znurre will become famous soon enoughZnurre will become famous soon enough
Default

Yes, I agree with Magnet.
Me and him killing parties twice as big as us, sometimes 3x as big.

And at Menirah, he evaded/resisted 10/21 attacks.
I saw it myself.
__________________
Winning a fight is not what makes you a good player, it's how you do it.
http://home.znur.re/screenshot%20201...2011_39_37.jpg
Znurre no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 04:34 PM   #163
Signatus
Master
 
Signatus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Damn, I'm lost again!... but now I have a map, wiii!
Posts: 389
Signatus will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magnet
PS: if you want pvp your Hunter vs my Marks it will be a pleasure, then you can see how much I resist.
Nah, make it against my knight! Mindsquash ftw... with my "thou-shall-not-evade-my-powers" shield

I was about to own a lock 50 a while ago, not bad for me... damn soulkeeper in the very last moment (it would be wise to raise a couple of lvls on my shield bash... I have it on 1... and it would be wise not having lag: my usual excuse)

You know what... someone should arrange a pvp meeting among the community of this forum, like in the old days (or I was told... wait, I remember Cowboy arranging one!). A nice cozy place, the english clans and "holas" friends travel there and use TS, Mumble or IRC to tease each other in a slaughter fest . Then everyone can testify what is "overpowered" or not.
__________________
The sound of the Gion Shōja bells echoes the impermanence of all things; the color of the sāla flowers reveals the truth that the prosperous must decline. The proud do not endure, they are like a dream on a spring night; the mighty fall at last, they are as dust before the wind.
-- Chapter 1.1 of The Tale of Heike, Helen Craig McCullough's translation
Signatus no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 04:36 PM   #164
magnet
Count
 
magnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: France
Posts: 1,416
magnet is on a distinguished road
Default

Your knight will be hard, very hard. Marks suck even more against Knights on PvP than Warlocks, because you need a lot of mana against Knights. However, in "real" game, a Marks can run from a Knight while a Warlock can run from... another Mage, that's all .

What level is your Knight now, you leveling freak? I prefer Knight vs Knight
__________________
magnet no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 04:51 PM   #165
Anpu
Count
 
Anpu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,186
Anpu will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magnet
I invite you to raise a Warlock to high level and do the same as me. Then tell me, in your soul and conscience, that Warlocks are overpowered.
i have lvl 25 but i dont like to play it since its so slow and no mobility.. but its lvling machine for sure, can kill faster than marksman in that "age"
__________________

Inquisition
Anpu no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 05:07 PM   #166
magnet
Count
 
magnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: France
Posts: 1,416
magnet is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anpu
i have lvl 25 but i dont like to play it since its so slow and no mobility.. but its lvling machine for sure, can kill faster than marksman in that "age"
Yes it's more powerful in the early levels, but balance is made for level 50. Now I guarantee that the only thing preventing a Marks from killing as fast as a Warlock is mana, with a Conj and a fast bow, using only skills, you can kill as fast as any Warlock, then switching to recharged arrows+Slow Long bow for "normal" (300-400) damage which works even if you're dizzy.

Yes, there are things a Warlock is better at than Marksmen: mana regen, of course, combat control (when it works), Terror is way better than Lightning arrow or other areas, but if you compare most aspects, Marksmen win. And that isn't my vision of balance.
__________________
magnet no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 06:15 PM   #167
fluffy_muffin
Count
 
fluffy_muffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,246
fluffy_muffin will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magnet
That's the best thing about Marksmen, I can rape hunters so easily, it brings me a huge smile
I hope you are buffed all the time. Cause 1 confuse before you will buff yourself and you will be dead faster then light.
__________________
In the future we will jump!
<DkySven> the big problem with balance discussions on the Regnum forum is that a lot of people just suck at playing their class
fluffy_muffin no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 06:16 PM   #168
magnet
Count
 
magnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: France
Posts: 1,416
magnet is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zielski
I hope you are buffed all the time. Cause 1 confuse before you will buff yourself and you will be dead faster then light.
I am, and I even cast Dodge when I rebuff so no one Confuses me in between (and I use a fast bow).
__________________
magnet no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 06:18 PM   #169
BlooD
Banned
 
BlooD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,145
BlooD will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magnet
(and I use a fast bow).
Fast bows = crap.

You lose shoots while you are moving, and you have to be always in movement.

I was bored.
BlooD no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2008, 07:20 PM   #170
magnet
Count
 
magnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: France
Posts: 1,416
magnet is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlooD
Fast bows = crap.

You lose shoots while you are moving, and you have to be always in movement.

I was bored.
No i meant for buffing, pt
Log maho and let's go kill!!!
__________________
magnet no ha iniciado sesión   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
NGD Studios 2002-2024 © All rights reserved