Bing vs Google

[Pizdzius]

Maybe that's how you wear a beret.

[ArcticWolf]

Different search engines use different matching and parsing algorithms. It's an amazing subject, really complex and diverse, and at the time beyond my knowledge. But in short, bing doesn't "read" the search input the same way google caffeine does, so it understands it differently.

[Torg_Snowflake]

Originally Posted by ArcticWolf

Different search engines use different matching and parsing algorithms. It's an amazing subject, really complex and diverse, and at the time beyond my knowledge. But in short, bing doesn't "read" the search input the same way google caffeine does, so it understands it differently.

I understand, I admire the complexity of the subject. But there is no really discussing the facts.

I didn't use fancy search strategies or made it easier for any. I copied and pasted a text I wanted the source off. A search engine should be able to find it.

[Miraculix]

Originally Posted by Torg_Snowflake

I understand, I admire the complexity of the subject. But there is no really discussing the facts.

I didn't use fancy search strategies or made it easier for any. I copied and pasted a text I wanted the source off. A search engine should be able to find it.

I think his point is that google has years of experience and R&D behind their search engine in order to perfect their information retrieval techniques, and that MS is barely a year into that market.

Still, it's quite a stupid move to go against fucking google's search engine in the first place. You'd have to start at least close to their performance in order to catch up if you ever plan on overtaking them by so much that you can actually de-throne them from being King of the fucking internet. This just ain't gonna happen. If someone had the resources to do it, it was indeed Microsoft, but even they seem to have failed at that.

[Torg_Snowflake]

Mira's got a solid point there

That plus the fact that bing is asking people to use a different way of search.

Let's face it. We are all lazy, otherwise we would all be using free operating systems.

The same reason that keeps us most using windows is the one that will keep us from using bing... ironic isn't it?

[ArcticWolf]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

I think his point is that google has years of experience and R&D behind their search engine in order to perfect their information retrieval techniques, and that MS is barely a year into that market.

Indeed. Google's secret is not PageRank (which is very similar to previous attempts to rate sites by a kind of social relevance), it's the immense architecture that backs up their search engine. The query parser that performs the analysis over your input was highly concurrent and capable of performing many different search paths (exact string match, word ranking, similar words in context scan, related searches). And the fucker seems to learn from you!

Then you have the Crawlerbot. A good crawler does more than just retrieve and tag webpages, it should try to guess the context, rank it according the references from other sources, and save all that information in a way that is easy and fast to retrieve.

I'm sure they also have another data analysis software (in fact, many of them) that builds semantic trees and votes to have an MRU cache of the most recent searches, trees and filters.

They got BigTable, they created MapReduce, and they run on hardware distributed all over the world.

In short, I think the entire Google Search is so complex that it will take years of R&D to create a viable replacement. After all, they're obsessed with data analysis, and they have tons of it at their disposal.

Originally Posted by Miraculix

Still, it's quite a stupid move to go against fucking google's search engine in the first place. You'd have to start at least close to their performance in order to catch up if you ever plan on overtaking them by so much that you can actually de-throne them from being King of the fucking internet. This just ain't gonna happen. If someone had the resources to do it, it was indeed Microsoft, but even they seem to have failed at that.

Oracle does, though they're not interested in the search market. Microsoft isn't interested in search engines, they just want some data to make targeted advertisements (Google wants the same, but Search is they flag product so they want to be the best at it).

[e30G]

Actually, if there is a threat to Google, that would be Facebook. We already see more traffic coming into Facebook than Google's search page in many countries. Sure Google will probably be better at searching the web, but traffic is what drives money into these companies.

[Miraculix]

Originally Posted by e30ernest

Actually, if there is a threat to Google, that would be Facebook. We already see more traffic coming into Facebook than Google's search page in many countries. Sure Google will probably be better at searching the web, but traffic is what drives money into these companies.

Only a matter of time before Google buys FB and dominates the internet completely

[Anpu]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

Only a matter of time before Google buys FB and dominates the internet completely

afaik, they should release soon(tm?) their new "tool": Google Me, "killer" of fB.

[Inkster]

Originally Posted by Pizdzius

How do I know if I'm a lesbian?

Trust me Piz, you are definitely not a lesbian

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Anpu

afaik, they should release soon(tm?) their new "tool": Google Me, "killer" of fB.

Googles social network is already in place, its called buzz, but its in its very early stages atm