A message for the whole Community - Page 3

aric_swartzell · 08-06-2008, 12:26 PM

I didn't start out being pessimistic, I was quite the contrary if you look at my early posts. But through time and seeing disappointment after disappointment, you can't help but become pessimistic of the future. NGD has a track record of ignoring important issues and introducing things that nobody wants. The way I see it, it all started with the evade rates some months ago. Then you messed with group xp and made grouping alot less attractive (especially for conjurers). You then introduced fatigue and the xp cut. And now you're bringing from what I hear severly hampered backwards movement. none of those which the community asked for or wanted. You continue to disappoint me NGD, I can't help but be pessimistic for the future of Regnum. I can't count the amount of players that I truely admire that have left. The gameplay IMO was more fun and more balanced when I began playing a year ago. Sure it needed tweaking but the base was there and it was good. I can't say the same anymore. You've completely destroyed balance and have made it nearly impossible and very unpleasant to level you character. Have you noticed no one wanting to start new characters? Don't you find that a bit odd? The fact that nobody wants to start fresh because the game has become unbearable to play from scratch.

makarios68 · 08-06-2008, 01:35 PM

I agree with Kailer.

By all means complain, criticise, give your opinion, say something sux if you think it does.

But all this spitting of feathers and threats of leaving get nobody anywhere.

Your point of view will be heard much more clearly if it isn't drowned out by the sound of your fury...

Having said this, I would like to say that the new movement restrictions catagorically suck.

IMO it's the worst change i have ever seen...

daresbalat · 08-06-2008, 03:16 PM

Well,

I stopped posting on this board a long time ago when I realised nothing ever gets changed.

If you're now saying that this is a new day, then I'm willing to give it another chance and get involved in discussions

Cmon people, I've never seen as many admin posts on the board as today, or direct responses to comments. Lets hang tough?

I have 1 comment and 1 suggestion:

Firstly, it would be GREAT if NGD acknowledges good ideas publically. Sometimes it feels like throwing stuff into a big pit. If someone suggests something that you think is a good idea then say GOOD IDEA but... and the possible issues. If you're never going to do it just say "no, we won't do it for X". I think it's the 1 way-ness of the feedback that's frustrating.

Second. After having a LONG time out this game (3 months or so), I'm convinced the only REALLY bad decision you've made is putting >lvl 35 mobs in realm. Hunting nowadays is so hard for non hunters. I the old days, we could always go to alsius beach and get a good scrap with high lvl chars. Ditto various other places on the map. Nowadays whether I hunt by myself is irrelevant - taking down 1 person at a time is no trouble.

SO for my money, the war/invasion dynamic would be much much better for this simple fact - move all the high lvl mobs out the inner realms and put them in the WZ. It'll transform everything overnight, especially if you put them in strategic places (ie, near forts, bridges, etc). Right now I end up picking off noobs just because I can't FIND any high lvl chars (until they end up hunting me...)

(also taking away reset powers is silly but thats another story

)

Thanks for this post, and I hope it turns into something beautiful

Malik2 · 08-07-2008, 04:44 PM

I would say that Polarkrakin is pretty much right.

I don't expect every decision to be completely beneficial to me personally. I would say that over the past few months the mood has shifted much more to an us vs. them relationship between players and NGD...much more so than when I first started playing last July.

I understand and don't necessarily agree with all the changes to game play that have been made since January. Most to all of those changes: fatigue, less experiance, economic adjustments, less group experiance etc did not affect actual game play. While the back up change did change balance. I think you had such a venomous responce becuase the perception of many here...rightly or wrongly is that the big changes made recently are putting players at a disadvantage. And , this past one directly affect game play. While actions that the players would like, such as the numberous posts to clan management, evades, etc. do not seem to be addressed. I think these kinds of changes without a blanacing beneficial change leads to a more and more negative relationship. Unpopular changes will have to be made, that is part of life, but it would be a better discussion when people are saying, "I really hate this change but I what you did here is great."

On to reseting powers. Rumors continue to swirl about this feature. I personally hope it does not change much, as I make mistakes just in regular levelling let alone if I decide I want to change from short to long bow or back or after levelling for a while realize I have way to many points invested in evasion and I need to beef up my pet etc. But then in the warzone evasion is more important on and on. I hope there is some careful deliberation before any change to that feature is made and that if reset powers is changed there is warning and plenty of discussion.

Ertial · 08-07-2008, 08:34 PM

People at the forums are really, really negative. Although I agree that there are bad points (and some bad decisions), this game isn't that bad or has become much worse since the end of the beta. I think that it has become even better than it was then. Some things got indeed a little bit worse, but we've got much more in return for that. For those that can remember the beta, leveling was much harder back than. There were more broken spells and less quests. Now you've got so many quests in the initiation areas that you are about level 11 when leaving them. I can go to 15 with just quests. The gameplay also has improved and new spells and features have been added. Although some people find these improvements not enough, you can surely say that the game isn't bad, or at least not worse than it used to be.
I'm sick of all this pessimism, which is probably the reason I'm visiting the forums less and less. Fortunately not everyone is that bad.

When people were whining at the forums and the IRC channel, we had a great time training at Horus.

To cite Monty Python: "Always look at the bright side of life."

Be a little bit more positive!

Bully · 08-07-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kailer

I'm not asking you to be nice. In fact, I'm not asking anything but "not exaggerating" or "overreacting".

I repeat, we need your criticism. If it was We Vs. The Community, we could switch off this forums, but we don't want that.

We now have a Community Manager to enhance the reception of feedback and we are willing to continue doing so.

Fail! I have twice posted in chilko's thread 'About Movement Speed' and twice he has removed the posts from the thread. I used no profanity and was very direct with short statements. I admit my demeanor is abrasive at times but the fact remains it was straight up criticism and there was no justifiable reason to delete either of these posts other than the inability to accept criticism. I have spent 20 years in direct customer service and have taken my fair share of justified complaints and unjustified abuse. I handled each individual professionally and never once cowered away in a corner to avoid conflict.

Adrian · 08-07-2008, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bully

Fail! I have twice posted in chilko's thread 'About Movement Speed' and twice he has removed the posts from the thread. I used no profanity and was very direct with short statements. I admit my demeanor is abrasive at times but the fact remains it was straight up criticism and there was no justifiable reason to delete either of these posts other than the inability to accept criticism. I have spent 20 years in direct customer service and have taken my fair share of justified complaints and unjustified abuse. I handled each individual professionally and never once cowered away in a corner to avoid conflict.

Off topic, ironic and short messages without argument are deleted. That's why this one and other of your posts are not deleted. The failure is in replying without thinking first what one is saying. It can happen to anyone of us.

Please, I repeat, continue with the criticism... but don't take things personally. We are here to listen, not to fight

Regards,

Hydroxidee · 08-07-2008, 11:34 PM

This is why I like you Kailer, user after user has complained about NGD's lack of performance and how the game is becoming "crap" and etc, You still have a positive attitude and encourage us to continue to critisize. THAT is the kind of admin I like.

I agree with what someone said in this forum, lets stop complaining, and give suggestions on how to improve instead.

Bully · 08-08-2008, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kailer

Off topic, ironic and short messages without argument are deleted. That's why this one and other of your posts are not deleted. The failure is in replying without thinking first what one is saying. It can happen to anyone of us.

Please, I repeat, continue with the criticism... but don't take things personally. We are here to listen, not to fight

Regards,

I'll give you that the second of the 2 posts fit your description. The first, however, was not only 'on topic' but it was a point that is absolute truth. It wasn't deleted for any other reason than my being right pissed off someone who is in a position to make it disappear. If anyone at any time disagrees with what I say, at least have the balls to state why you disagree instead of sweeping it under the rug.

Adrian · 08-08-2008, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bully

I'll give you that the second of the 2 posts fit your description. The first, however, was not only 'on topic' but it was a point that is absolute truth. It wasn't deleted for any other reason than my being right pissed off someone who is in a position to make it disappear. If anyone at any time disagrees with what I say, at least have the balls to state why you disagree instead of sweeping it under the rug.

It wouldn't be appropriate for me to post your deleted posts. Rules are to be read and followed and you have someone who always hears and attends your problems if you come politely. And regarding the last sentence, please calm down.

Regards,

08-06-2008, 03:16 PM	#23
daresbalat Master Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 344	Well, I stopped posting on this board a long time ago when I realised nothing ever gets changed. If you're now saying that this is a new day, then I'm willing to give it another chance and get involved in discussions Cmon people, I've never seen as many admin posts on the board as today, or direct responses to comments. Lets hang tough? I have 1 comment and 1 suggestion: Firstly, it would be GREAT if NGD acknowledges good ideas publically. Sometimes it feels like throwing stuff into a big pit. If someone suggests something that you think is a good idea then say GOOD IDEA but... and the possible issues. If you're never going to do it just say "no, we won't do it for X". I think it's the 1 way-ness of the feedback that's frustrating. Second. After having a LONG time out this game (3 months or so), I'm convinced the only REALLY bad decision you've made is putting >lvl 35 mobs in realm. Hunting nowadays is so hard for non hunters. I the old days, we could always go to alsius beach and get a good scrap with high lvl chars. Ditto various other places on the map. Nowadays whether I hunt by myself is irrelevant - taking down 1 person at a time is no trouble. SO for my money, the war/invasion dynamic would be much much better for this simple fact - move all the high lvl mobs out the inner realms and put them in the WZ. It'll transform everything overnight, especially if you put them in strategic places (ie, near forts, bridges, etc). Right now I end up picking off noobs just because I can't FIND any high lvl chars (until they end up hunting me...) (also taking away reset powers is silly but thats another story ) Thanks for this post, and I hope it turns into something beautiful __________________ Kim, Siona and Murbella. Hi. High Councillor of Inquisition

08-07-2008, 04:44 PM	#24
Malik2 Initiate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 219	I would say that Polarkrakin is pretty much right. I don't expect every decision to be completely beneficial to me personally. I would say that over the past few months the mood has shifted much more to an us vs. them relationship between players and NGD...much more so than when I first started playing last July. I understand and don't necessarily agree with all the changes to game play that have been made since January. Most to all of those changes: fatigue, less experiance, economic adjustments, less group experiance etc did not affect actual game play. While the back up change did change balance. I think you had such a venomous responce becuase the perception of many here...rightly or wrongly is that the big changes made recently are putting players at a disadvantage. And , this past one directly affect game play. While actions that the players would like, such as the numberous posts to clan management, evades, etc. do not seem to be addressed. I think these kinds of changes without a blanacing beneficial change leads to a more and more negative relationship. Unpopular changes will have to be made, that is part of life, but it would be a better discussion when people are saying, "I really hate this change but I what you did here is great." On to reseting powers. Rumors continue to swirl about this feature. I personally hope it does not change much, as I make mistakes just in regular levelling let alone if I decide I want to change from short to long bow or back or after levelling for a while realize I have way to many points invested in evasion and I need to beef up my pet etc. But then in the warzone evasion is more important on and on. I hope there is some careful deliberation before any change to that feature is made and that if reset powers is changed there is warning and plenty of discussion. __________________ Ulixes Wolfhair Hunter of Syrtis...Horus and Ra- The White Company

08-07-2008, 08:34 PM	#25
Ertial Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Friesland, the Netherlands Posts: 298	People at the forums are really, really negative. Although I agree that there are bad points (and some bad decisions), this game isn't that bad or has become much worse since the end of the beta. I think that it has become even better than it was then. Some things got indeed a little bit worse, but we've got much more in return for that. For those that can remember the beta, leveling was much harder back than. There were more broken spells and less quests. Now you've got so many quests in the initiation areas that you are about level 11 when leaving them. I can go to 15 with just quests. The gameplay also has improved and new spells and features have been added. Although some people find these improvements not enough, you can surely say that the game isn't bad, or at least not worse than it used to be. I'm sick of all this pessimism, which is probably the reason I'm visiting the forums less and less. Fortunately not everyone is that bad. When people were whining at the forums and the IRC channel, we had a great time training at Horus. To cite Monty Python: "Always look at the bright side of life." Be a little bit more positive! __________________ Ubuntu, Linux for human beings hunter Ertial Rye Inquisition!

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08-06-2008, 12:26 PM	#21
aric_swartzell Master Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 293	I didn't start out being pessimistic, I was quite the contrary if you look at my early posts. But through time and seeing disappointment after disappointment, you can't help but become pessimistic of the future. NGD has a track record of ignoring important issues and introducing things that nobody wants. The way I see it, it all started with the evade rates some months ago. Then you messed with group xp and made grouping alot less attractive (especially for conjurers). You then introduced fatigue and the xp cut. And now you're bringing from what I hear severly hampered backwards movement. none of those which the community asked for or wanted. You continue to disappoint me NGD, I can't help but be pessimistic for the future of Regnum. I can't count the amount of players that I truely admire that have left. The gameplay IMO was more fun and more balanced when I began playing a year ago. Sure it needed tweaking but the base was there and it was good. I can't say the same anymore. You've completely destroyed balance and have made it nearly impossible and very unpleasant to level you character. Have you noticed no one wanting to start new characters? Don't you find that a bit odd? The fact that nobody wants to start fresh because the game has become unbearable to play from scratch.

08-06-2008, 01:35 PM	#22
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	I agree with Kailer. By all means complain, criticise, give your opinion, say something sux if you think it does. But all this spitting of feathers and threats of leaving get nobody anywhere. Your point of view will be heard much more clearly if it isn't drowned out by the sound of your fury... Having said this, I would like to say that the new movement restrictions catagorically suck. IMO it's the worst change i have ever seen...

08-07-2008, 11:34 PM	#28
Hydroxidee Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 161	This is why I like you Kailer, user after user has complained about NGD's lack of performance and how the game is becoming "crap" and etc, You still have a positive attitude and encourage us to continue to critisize. THAT is the kind of admin I like. I agree with what someone said in this forum, lets stop complaining, and give suggestions on how to improve instead.