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Old 06-17-2009, 04:17 AM   #21
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:37 AM   #22
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i have 20-25 fps in ilreah village, when everything is loaded
in winxp i have 30-35 at the same place
i wonder what's it like in warzone, but i have a bad feeling
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:02 PM   #23
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why use wine when there's a native linux binary? O.o
Because openGL its slower than the development of a conifer.

honestly. My games usually run faster in wine than in native

(true for minecraft, regnum and tremulous)

Linux still kicks ass ... jsut not for games

(ubuntu FTW)

screnshot as proov that i lvoe ubuntu and open source

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Old 03-12-2011, 02:03 PM   #24
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i have 20-25 fps in ilreah village, when everything is loaded
in winxp i have 30-35 at the same place
i wonder what's it like in warzone, but i have a bad feeling
see my previous post my good friend.

when in doubt .... wine it

(direct x FTW)
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:26 PM   #25
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Because openGL its slower than the development of a conifer.

honestly. My games usually run faster in wine than in native

(true for minecraft, regnum and tremulous)

Linux still kicks ass ... jsut not for games

(ubuntu FTW)

screnshot as proov that i lvoe ubuntu and open source

http://i.imgur.com/zQP3e.png
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see my previous post my good friend.

when in doubt .... wine it

(direct x FTW)
It's been a while since I saw such stupid posts.
Back up those claims with numbers, please.

FYI: http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-...nd-not-DirectX
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:31 PM   #26
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It's been a while since I saw such stupid posts.
Back up those claims with numbers, please.

FYI: http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-...nd-not-DirectX
OK i do retract the claim that open GL its slower ..... i guess i was wrong .. however. care to explain why my games (minecraft and tremulous) react faster in wine than in native mode?

Because honestly this is the only problem that i have so far in ubuntu.

P.S. specs are bellow
(dual core 2.0 ghz. Decent graphics card, 2 GB ram)

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Old 03-12-2011, 07:11 PM   #27
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OK i do retract the claim that open GL its slower ..... i guess i was wrong .. however. care to explain why my games (minecraft and tremulous) react faster in wine than in native mode?

Because honestly this is the only problem that i have so far in ubuntu.

P.S. specs are bellow
(dual core 2.0 ghz. Decent graphics card, 2 GB ram)

Code:
 posted $sudo lshw but it got cut .... post too long
I have no idea, really
Minecraft is written in Java, and thus it is the same code running in a virtual machine no matter the platform or the emulation.

I do however have a theory.
When you run a game in wine using Direct3D, all Direct3D calls are made into OpenGL calls.
This wrapper is not 100% complete, and it does not support all Direct3D features.
Since you lose many of the more advanced features of Direct3D, the GPU is less taxed and this might give you better performance.
Turning off those options in the OpenGL renderer should then give you similar results.
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OK i do retract the claim that open GL its slower ..... i guess i was wrong .. however. care to explain why my games (minecraft and tremulous) react faster in wine than in native mode?
Maybe because only a subset of all the functionality of the Direct3D API is implemented, or just because developing games with OpenGL is friggin' hard to get done right.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:30 AM   #29
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It's been a while since I saw such stupid posts.
Back up those claims with numbers, please.

FYI: http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-...nd-not-DirectX
great link i read that blog post months ago and all of it is true

regnum is slow in opengl simply because the devs clearly haven't given it enough attention it needed but it has improved a little bit in past year or so

and tremulous well that's based off ioquake3 i play it often(gpp version) it play fast enough in opengl(alot faster then the 125 fps i cap mine at) it is however a 10year+ old engine and doesn't use as much gpu power it could be that wine is just using newer/faster opengl calls/techniques even if there's a slight performance boost in using wine why would you willingly run it in wine it is open-source tremulous compiles fine in linux

i have no clue about minecraft i don't own/play it

linux gaming isn't that bad we got some great open-source games like spring and tremulous and some closed source games like regnum and most of ID software releases could be more but for some reason people think there's no market share on linux i think that's so far from the truth also if coded right opengl is much faster then directx that used to be true and i think its still true
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i have no clue about minecraft i don't own/play it
Minecraft uses LWJGL, which is a Java framework/wrapper around OpenGL and OpenAL, AFAIK.
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