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Old 08-24-2014, 12:24 PM   #381
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sotw and escapist need to return to the old format of being used together.inside a fort towers it favours the warriors far too much.you cast sotw the barb just waits for it to end and only makes normal hits.your dead before you even get to cast escapist.assuming the barb was a noob and you did get to cast escapist,he kicks you and the spell stops working anyways.

this is very limiting to archers.it means warriors can camp towers and archers cannot do a thing about it.its already too hard to fight them inside a tower,now its just impossible.

the durations are too low as well.UM has 10 seconds.sotw wouldnt save you anyways.archers take far more than 2-3 hits to kill a barb.its ok for archers to have longer defence spells it balances the game more.shortening them only makes it more of a warrior based game.
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:36 PM   #382
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sotw and escapist need to return to the old format of being used together.inside a fort towers it favours the warriors far too much.you cast sotw the barb just waits for it to end and only makes normal hits.your dead before you even get to cast escapist.assuming the barb was a noob and you did get to cast escapist,he kicks you and the spell stops working anyways.

this is very limiting to archers.it means warriors can camp towers and archers cannot do a thing about it.its already too hard to fight them inside a tower,now its just impossible.

the durations are too low as well.UM has 10 seconds.sotw wouldnt save you anyways.archers take far more than 2-3 hits to kill a barb.its ok for archers to have longer defence spells it balances the game more.shortening them only makes it more of a warrior based game.
I disagree, being literally untouchable for 8 seconds would be bad gameplay.

The current version on Amun forces a decision of either side, that is nice in my opinion. How this turns out in war i dont have much experience yet, in pvps it was quite straightforward.

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he kicks you and the spell stops working anyways
is simply a lie - you didnt even test it or you would've noticed it does not stop working.

A barb would most likely ROAR you an wait it out. Thats a strong answer in 1v1, in war waiting out Roar though.. yeah..
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:49 PM   #383
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thats right i never tested escapist,i was assuming it was like its current version.i assumed it was going to act like block/escapist/sotw does now and if your knocked it stops working.but thats irrelevent anyways.i did however test them with a barb.close quarters there was no escaping them.if i cast sotw he just held off using spells and hit normals to kill me.if i cast escapist he just cast spells on me to kill me.

my whole point is,no archer in thier right mind will enter a tower now.how is that balance?
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:50 PM   #384
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Can you make UM and DI unstackable?

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my whole point is,no archer in thier right mind will enter a tower now.how is that balance?
You don't need Escapist and Son of the Wind together to enter a tower unless to escape.
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Old 08-24-2014, 08:43 PM   #385
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You don't need Escapist and Son of the Wind together to enter a tower unless to escape.
Hunters don't even need to be at a fort, even after the update they will be camping bridges because they are useless in a war
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Old 08-25-2014, 01:13 AM   #386
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Hunters don't even need to be at a fort, even after the update they will be camping bridges because they are useless in a war
with the new mass rezz cremation should be used way more often.
It's high time for Camo Corpse to shine!

Also the thing i like to do is to wander about forts camoed, target wounded players and regret not having an ammy.
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:54 AM   #387
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You don't need Escapist and Son of the Wind together to enter a tower unless to escape.
actually you do.a tower camped with barbs and a conju is a death trap.hunters are needed to go up and confuse/stun and run.you cannot always use camou to do it.under the new conditions in this coming update you will find hunter class has even less use at a fort.

on a side note,im going to miss the old stalker.many people dont like it but i have to say i really enjoyed tracking and hunting other hunters trying to hide.it added something special to being a hunter.now that too has been taken away.
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:01 AM   #388
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new mass ress sounds good, in amun it was very useful specially at bosses, now that shield wall and stars shield were nerfed

about hunters @ forts, sotw wont change much, hunters will keep getting frustrated if they expect anything else then a horn, a HotP or a confuse. Pretty just trying to ease dmg dealers to do their jobs.
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:56 AM   #389
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actually you do.a tower camped with barbs and a conju is a death trap.hunters are needed to go up and confuse/stun and run.you cannot always use camou to do it.under the new conditions in this coming update you will find hunter class has even less use at a fort.

on a side note,im going to miss the old stalker.many people dont like it but i have to say i really enjoyed tracking and hunting other hunters trying to hide.it added something special to being a hunter.now that too has been taken away.
Less DI means more confuse, caltrop, ambush opportunities, not to mention ambush will be close to instant with its 0,5s cast.

miss old stalker? i thought stalker changes were reverted.
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:24 PM   #390
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Here we go again...limit some conju stuff, because others benefit from it. Then this class becomes more and more hard and dumb to play. And we get less and less conjus.

In the current state playing without DI equals rage quit after approx 30 - 60 mins for every conju. If you have not played alone conju everyone will say how he HATES when it happens.

Change DI, so it is impossible to buff 2 allies, but keep it duration = cooldown.

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Please stop nerfing stuff and give us some love... oh right barbs are more important... get back to them...
That is what i meant in my post.. At least make effect = cooldown..
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