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Old 04-12-2008, 11:01 AM   #31
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Yes but that's against mobs, right?
Hmmm not if Fatal Strike hits
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:01 AM   #32
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znurre had caution and frenzy...Yoseba hit other ppl for over 3k damage, but they had no protection buffs most probably. So, when you do some math (dmg - protection + DS you get about 4k damage.

I think it is connected with DS/position bug, too.

I often get hit (range 0 spells/normal hits) from warriors while they are quite far away for me.


And, Edge, you are lvl 42 and use a very slow weapon I guess (warlord axe or how it is called). It is not that much difference in base damage between lvl 42 and lvl 50
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:12 AM   #33
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I don't think so. I think is a matter of buffs (and maybe debuffs like sudden strike but this one I can't see in the log, probably happened before or even not logged).

Remember about a full buff is really really a pain, like a max bless weapon, then on spanish forum you can read he has all kind of + strength items. Combined to off with their heads, onslaught, acurate swings, bear strength and so on, I think you can reach that extreme amount of dmg. If is something combined with DS is totally strange, I don't think a ranged attack is calculated by the range it affects, but probably by the class of spell/weapon deals the dmg, otherwise a shot from a bow at range 0 would not be a ranged attack.
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:15 AM   #34
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I did not get any debuffs one me except for Death Sentence.
I had been at Aggers for around 10 seconds :P
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:17 AM   #35
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If is something combined with DS is totally strange, I don't think a ranged attack is calculated by the range it affects, but probably by the class of spell/weapon deals the dmg, otherwise a shot from a bow at range 0 would not be a ranged attack.

When a target gets closer than 4 (I think it is 4, not relay sure) to a ranged class then ranged attacks of this target get no damage bonus.

That means you can cancel DS easy (in 1v1) when you stay close to the marks...most people make the mistake and run away...then the marks just needs to shoot in your back
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:22 AM   #36
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That's cool to know, I didn't know it. Then probably could be correlated with DS, but I still don't believe (or I want believe) it is

So my Deflecting Barrier protection could be avoided by simply running to range 0 to the enemy :|
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Old 04-12-2008, 01:31 PM   #37
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like salt said he uses a lot of strength boost ups i know a knight that hits you almost 1k with a ripost ouch and probably another barb casted onslaught and a conjur buffed him with that strength buff mixing it with his normal power
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:50 PM   #38
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Also, I fear thet there is a bug involved.
As you see in my log, I got DS lvl 4 on me just before.

I knocked Yoseba and made 2 hits on him.
Before he got up again I was about range 4/6 away from him when I suddenly died.
My first thought was "he must have used Spirtual Blow", but when I looked in the log it said South Cross.

This can either be:

1. Positioning problems
2. South Cross have a small range.

I have observed in Colliseum, that Beast Attack have a range of around 4 even if range 0 is stated in the description.
If this is the case with South Cross, perhaps DS would help to improve the damage... ?
Ah no no no no no.

Remember in one of the last updates they changed melee range to around 4m?

He must have started casting SC before you backed off - meaning he still got the hit in.

My two xim anyway.
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Old 04-13-2008, 12:24 AM   #39
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There's a thread about Yoseba in the spanish forums. He has Dialon's buffs (Bear Strength lv 5, Bless Weapon lv 5). Don't forget that changes a lot...

But yeah, it's totally stupid and makes the game no fun.

Not earlier than 10 mins ago I got a SC on my knight of 2300 hps, that's already too much and I don't see the point. So much for finesse, heh....

People like Yoseba would prefer a "kill" skill. Click a button and your enemy is dead. Yeepee.
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He was alone many times he did the damage. Or he didn't have Dialon around. Valorius was hit for 2.8k dmg with Mattdoesrock and Pol around only.
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