The useless spell list - Page 4

UmarilsStillHere · 08-04-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by El_Naso

Question: in theory, fragility + infuriate + sultar's mass = lots and lots of damage? If so, then... why are those three spells listed here? :/

Becasue although they are potentially usefull, no one uses them, read post one on the criteria to be entered to the list, even if its a great spell if no one is using it, its going on here

linearguild · 08-04-2009, 01:02 PM

I cast Infuriate when I'm playing my PT lock, but that could be a relic of playing with the mindset of a marksman. It's not as evil as Sudden Strike on level 1 but hey, every malus counts.

I think you don't see it often because higher level warlocks have better spells to cast. It's the low- and mid-levels that can't kill anything directly who are more likely to use these debuffs.

Malik2 · 08-05-2009, 07:21 PM

A few notes on these four:

Martial Defence
Back Slam
Defensive Stance: - Speed ruins it
Martial Reflexes: Broken

If I am in a fort and have some extra mana, I cast both Martial Defence and Defencive Stance then Onslaught so I can move. Problem is it kills my mana if I do so. And with Onslaught being shorter now I don't know if I will continue.

I don't see people using Back Slam in favor of Kick, Feint, and the area stun or dizzy spells.

Martial reflexes is broken from what I have experianced, and the mana cost is quite high for not working properly.

_dracus_ · 08-05-2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malik2

A few notes on these four:

Martial Defence
Back Slam
Defensive Stance: - Speed ruins it
Martial Reflexes: Broken

If I am in a fort and have some extra mana, I cast both Martial Defence and Defencive Stance then Onslaught so I can move. Problem is it kills my mana if I do so. And with Onslaught being shorter now I don't know if I will continue.

I don't see people using Back Slam in favor of Kick, Feint, and the area stun or dizzy spells.

Martial reflexes is broken from what I have experianced, and the mana cost is quite high for not working properly.

Defensive stance is definetly used (at least on Ra), I can name you few people that I've seen with it: Znurre, Regnum-Irae for example.

necroferos · 08-05-2009, 09:44 PM

I use Defensive Stance with my Barb (in Fort Doors). I used it combined with Unstoppable Madness (at lvl3) and works very fine.

About Mirage, i found this on RegnumOnlineWiki: http://regnum.wikia.com/wiki/Mirage

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Originally Posted by Regnumonlinewiki

NOTE:

Mirage is not often used by conjurers, because it's full potential is not known. If used precisely, it can give many people knock resistance as long as they stay within the very small range of it's effect. An especially helpful spell in combination with this is mind blank. This combo gives a potential of 90% knock resistance to the conjurer.

This mean that everyone who is in Area 3 of the conjurer is under the effect of Mirage?

Dupa_z_Zasady · 08-05-2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malik2

If I am in a fort and have some extra mana, I cast both Martial Defence and Defencive Stance

Tell me, how can you cast Martial Defence which is passive?

Immune · 08-05-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by necroferos

About Mirage, i found this on RegnumOnlineWiki:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regnumonlinewiki

NOTE:

Mirage is not often used by conjurers, because it's full potential is not known. If used precisely, it can give many people knock resistance as long as they stay within the very small range of it's effect. An especially helpful spell in combination with this is mind blank. This combo gives a potential of 90% knock resistance to the conjurer.

This mean that everyone who is in Area 3 of the conjurer is under the effect of Mirage?

That's exactly what it means. I've tested it, and it works. Hard to use for that purpose though, because that is such a small area.

necroferos · 08-05-2009, 10:25 PM

Maybe it will be useful with area 6 .... I will post it in "Sugerencias"

See you!

Charly_Metal · 08-05-2009, 11:09 PM

I have Rend(3) in my setup and is very good against mages.

The problem with this skill is that the percentage is calculated on the actual mana reserve instead of the total reserve, like Energy Borrow.

Nils_Dacke · 04-06-2010, 08:05 AM

This list is outdated after the major changes in the combat engine in the infamous 1.0.8 update. Still a good thread though.

We can add death sentence (marksman/aiming) to the list now. I never ever see anyone use it for the +% any longer, and when it is used with anything above level 1 (as a visual marker), we laugh about it: 'OMG did he really waste 4 points on that!?'

08-04-2009, 01:02 PM	#32
linearguild Initiate Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Spawned at save Posts: 198	I cast Infuriate when I'm playing my PT lock, but that could be a relic of playing with the mindset of a marksman. It's not as evil as Sudden Strike on level 1 but hey, every malus counts. I think you don't see it often because higher level warlocks have better spells to cast. It's the low- and mid-levels that can't kill anything directly who are more likely to use these debuffs. __________________ Xia - Marksman · Saiph - Warlock · Amaron - Conjurer A proud member of I N Q U I S I T I O N

08-05-2009, 07:21 PM	#33
Malik2 Initiate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 219	A few notes on these four: Martial Defence Back Slam Defensive Stance: - Speed ruins it Martial Reflexes: Broken If I am in a fort and have some extra mana, I cast both Martial Defence and Defencive Stance then Onslaught so I can move. Problem is it kills my mana if I do so. And with Onslaught being shorter now I don't know if I will continue. I don't see people using Back Slam in favor of Kick, Feint, and the area stun or dizzy spells. Martial reflexes is broken from what I have experianced, and the mana cost is quite high for not working properly. __________________ Ulixes Wolfhair Hunter of Syrtis...Horus and Ra- The White Company

08-05-2009, 10:25 PM	#38
necroferos Baron Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gran Canaria, Islas Canarias Posts: 678	Maybe it will be useful with area 6 .... I will post it in "Sugerencias" See you! __________________ ->Vash la Estampida/Million Knives ------Legión Imperial de Syrtis------

08-05-2009, 11:09 PM	#39
Charly_Metal Master Join Date: May 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 341	I have Rend(3) in my setup and is very good against mages. The problem with this skill is that the percentage is calculated on the actual mana reserve instead of the total reserve, like Energy Borrow. __________________ Charles Darken Bárbaro ║ Dankar Cazador ║ Charles Darksoul Brujo

04-06-2010, 08:05 AM	#40
Nils_Dacke Initiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 172	2010 update This list is outdated after the major changes in the combat engine in the infamous 1.0.8 update. Still a good thread though. We can add death sentence (marksman/aiming) to the list now. I never ever see anyone use it for the +% any longer, and when it is used with anything above level 1 (as a visual marker), we laugh about it: 'OMG did he really waste 4 points on that!?' __________________ Apart from that, dispell magic on oneself should be abolished.

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