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Old 12-13-2011, 03:07 PM   #31
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Sorry, didn't see where you posted that.

That's pretty damn good for a 4 year old computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103996
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161384

Just these two parts for your computer would make it better than the one you're looking at by a long shot, for $270. Depending on the wattage on your power supply, you might need a new one of those too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341052

I think just these parts alone come out to equal the cost of the computer you're looking at. So it's a hard call. :P
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:14 PM   #32
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My brother has a smiliar computer, Intel Dual Core E2160, 2GB RAM, GeForce 9500 1024GB (passive) and plays with shader model 3, medium details on very stable 40-50fps without lags or problems. Btw. using Linux.

As you said that what you want is play on SM3 with fps over 40 I would just suggest to change the graphic card and if that is not enough consider using a less resource hungry OS
The problem with installing a new OS is that I have other relatives that don't even precisely know how to handle with a windows version.. So suggesting I would take a Linux. Well tbh I have never had any linux OS before but from all the screenshots and videos I see it doesn't seem so 'user friendly' so that wouldn't be an option for me.

On the other hand, what I would like to do is buy an other computer, a good one which I could play SM 4 with and high settings and really nice FPS ratings. Put it somewhere where only I can use it and install a linux. In my opinion, the second plan seems much nicer.
Then again, my budget isn't really large that's why I'm looking for a nice, not to expensive desktop ;p
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:19 PM   #33
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Sorry, didn't see where you posted that.

That's pretty damn good for a 4 year old computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103996
You should consider that he has a motherboard with Intel socket (LGA 775 I guess, anyway we should be sure about that before recommending a processor ).

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On the other hand, what I would like to do is buy an other computer, a good one which I could play SM 4 with and high settings and really nice FPS ratings. Put it somewhere where only I can use it and install a linux. In my opinion, the second plan seems much nicer.
Then again, my budget isn't really large that's why I'm looking for a nice, not to expensive desktop ;p
Ok, that's another topic then... you will need around 500€ for that.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:23 PM   #34
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Sorry, didn't see where you posted that.

That's pretty damn good for a 4 year old computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103996
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161384

Just these two parts for your computer would make it better than the one you're looking at by a long shot, for $270. Depending on the wattage on your power supply, you might need a new one of those too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341052

I think just these parts alone come out to equal the cost of the computer you're looking at. So it's a hard call. :P
Woow those parts look really nice, and not that expensive.. But if I look at the prices that's around 350 dollars together. Which is about 320 euros? If I'm not wrong, I see alot of computers that cost around the same price for example this one:
Intel Core 2QUAD met processor Intel Q6600 4x 2,4 GHZ , G0, 8 mb cache,


6 Gb RAM
500 gb HDD
ATI RADEON 2900XT 1 GB with tv out and DVI
With this I get a keyboard, mouse, and a LCD Screen 20'' (Not much but still usable) I could prollyupgrade this pc with the same parts and get a computer with a lot better performances and I could use it on my own so that would mean 2 desktops. Somehow that seems more attractive to me, still not totally sure.

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Old 12-13-2011, 06:25 PM   #35
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Btw does anyone know what overclocking means?
And I sometimes see, well for example my last post: Intel Q6600 4x 2,4 GHZ , G0, 8 mb cache

What does this 0,8 MB Cache mean? What does it do or stand for?
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:59 PM   #36
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Btw does anyone know what overclocking means?
Processors (doesn't matter if CPU or GPU) are designed for a specific clock rate or a certain range, anyway they have a max clock rate they are designed for.
So, for example if we are speaking about an 1GHz processor this means a processor with a clock rate of 50 billion instructions/calculations per second.
The clock rate is defined by a clock generator that tells the processor when it has to make the next calculation and here we go - overclocking is nothing else than increasing the clock rate beyond the max rate the processor is designed for.

= more performance and less lifetime (or destruction of the processor up to burning your computer if you go too far)

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And I sometimes see, well for example my last post: Intel Q6600 4x 2,4 GHZ , G0, 8 mb cache

What does this 0,8 MB Cache mean? What does it do or stand for?
this is a buffer where the processor can store instructions when it is still working on previous instructions

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Old 12-13-2011, 07:26 PM   #37
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That quad core is good value for what your getting and plenty powerful enough, would prefer an nvidia card though (if installing linux) and the processor socket type isn't good if you ever want to upgrade the cpu (its last generation), the Q6600 should be good for another few years at least though.

The guy who was offering you his old system in the 1st post built his own, I would suggest asking him to build you one (unless you want to try yourself). You can put together a system thats good for easy future upgrades and has ok performance for a little more than he wants for his old one.
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:18 PM   #38
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My brother has a smiliar computer, Intel Dual Core E2160, 2GB RAM, GeForce 9500 1024GB (passive) and plays with shader model 3, medium details on very stable 40-50fps without lags or problems. Btw. using Linux.

As you said that what you want is play on SM3 with fps over 40 I would just suggest to change the graphic card and if that is not enough consider using a less resource hungry OS
This.

If you ran something like XP on that computer it would fly, and so would RO. Not on Shader 3 of course, but I don't see why you shouldn't be able to run decently on Shader 2...

I would recommend Linux, but only if you're into the idea of learning a whole new OS. Otherwise stick with XP.

Also, pirated versions of questionable origins... bad, bad idea Especially since the aim of this version you use is to make it look like a mac. Someone who hacks windows to make it look like a mac is the ultimate tech failure (don't be offended :P)
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:00 PM   #39
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Hehe let's build a computer together if you know how to
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:24 PM   #40
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Processors (doesn't matter if CPU or GPU) are designed for a specific clock rate or a certain range, anyway they have a max clock rate they are designed for.
So, for example if we are speaking about an 1GHz processor this means a processor with a clock rate of 50 billion instructions/calculations per second.
The clock rate is defined by a clock generator that tells the processor when it has to make the next calculation and here we go - overclocking is nothing else than increasing the clock rate beyond the max rate the processor is designed for.

= more performance and less lifetime (or destruction of the processor up to burning your computer if you go too far)


this is a buffer where the processor can store instructions when it is still working on previous instructions
Now I finally know, thank you very much! That has buzzin' me for a looooonggg time..

Also, , if anyone would mind telling me.. What's the difference with an on-board graphic card and just a normal one?


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That quad core is good value for what your getting and plenty powerful enough, would prefer an nvidia card though (if installing linux) and the processor socket type isn't good if you ever want to upgrade the cpu (its last generation), the Q6600 should be good for another few years at least though.

The guy who was offering you his old system in the 1st post built his own, I would suggest asking him to build you one (unless you want to try yourself). You can put together a system thats good for easy future upgrades and has ok performance for a little more than he wants for his old one.

Well I don't have that option anymore and I wouldn't really like to let someone else build a computer for me. I would rather just buy one or make my own, with some help of course.


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This.

If you ran something like XP on that computer it would fly, and so would RO. Not on Shader 3 of course, but I don't see why you shouldn't be able to run decently on Shader 2...

I would recommend Linux, but only if you're into the idea of learning a whole new OS. Otherwise stick with XP.

Also, pirated versions of questionable origins... bad, bad idea Especially since the aim of this version you use is to make it look like a mac. Someone who hacks windows to make it look like a mac is the ultimate tech failure (don't be offended :P)
Hahha no not offended at all, I got it from a friend and it's pretty nice tbh. I don't know if it's good or anything but I have a lot less lagg than when I used to play on my vista, that totally sucked. Maybe some day I will install Linux, though I hear a lot of programs don't run on linux not many games do either :/ Huge Con of course.

What would be better. Windows xp or Windows 7/Mac' ish version ;p
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