3 hit kill!!!

[backe]

Wudy, your first post in this thread pretty much sums up the whole damn thing.

To the rest of you, I don't really know how anyone can take Val seriously until he actually attempts playing another class. Every class in the game is more or less overpowered than a hunter in his eyes, so just give it a rest and he'll go away again.

On-topic and to the OP:
Sorry mate, its a tough break, but it happens to us all. He probably had embes for the first hit, and to your post after that, you can't expect to hit an armored target for 1k+ (although it happens).

[-Drv-]

i concur with wudy

face a barb isn't a problem, i could die, but i don't think i have not chance to win.
and when i use my hunter is even better.

reduce the base damage of the barbarians will be the really funny for every ranged class, is this the solution whose whines of their hits? how could a barbarian kill an archer doing less damage?

your point of view seems biased to me, valorius

[Valorius]

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

For the love of god.

A) So all barbs use SC? I wasn't aware of this. I completely forgot the fact that even though I only have slashing at 8, and there nothing do not even possess level 1 SC.. I use it all the time! How stupid of me. Then there's Znurre, the biggest SC monkey of them all!

Every class has an overpowered spell.

Barbs have a variety of wildly overpowered spell, which you've admitted yourself in other threads. Like Typhoon, 1400dmg area, for instance. And just because you personally don't use SC changes nothing. Lightning strike is also insanely good when cast by barbs. And then there's 1500hp normal attacks, spiritual blow, massive dmg/knock resistances, etc. A 'defensive' build barb is probably the hardest class of all for me to face. My arrows do about 80-100 dmg per shot vs those ones, and i have an extremely powerful bow, 2x deadly sight rings, and lvl 4 passive bow dmg.

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

B) Auras?? LOL. We don't have a *single* aura. We have two area buffs, Onslaught and Off with their heads.

You may quibble with terminology, but you obviously knew what i was talking about.

Both of those 'area buffs' are extremely powerful spells.

Originally Posted by backe

To the rest of you, I don't really know how anyone can take Val seriously until he actually attempts playing another class. Every class in the game is more or less overpowered than a hunter in his eyes, so just give it a rest and he'll go away again.

There have only been 10 gillion posters in 10 gillion threads to state barbs are overpowered. And blatantly so.

But hey, whatever.

Originally Posted by drV

your point of view seems biased to me, valorius

My opinion is extremely common.

Originally Posted by gph

Don't tell me you never use mind push ?

And for the reference Knights often kills barb in fights, because they just just block everything, and use faster weapon which permit them to hit way more often. If they time well the knock downs and dizzy it's hell.

Yeah, knights seem to do quite well vs barbs. Much better than most other classes do, for the reasons you listed.

So do some warlocks seem to fare well vs barbs, a class that, with the exception of a very few specific players, i find to be absolutely no challenge in 1 on 1s whatsoever. It takes 2 lvl 50 warlocks to equal the challenge that one 'elite' lvl 50 barb player poses vs my usual build type.

Of course how could i possibly know all that, having "only ever played a hunter"(which is not even remotely true, but i digress).

I mean, it's not like i've witnessed literally tens of thousands of battles of every possible force structure, scenario, and size in Regnum, and i'm sure being a clan leader who works constantly with all his lvl 50 players of all classes in discussions to make our team more efficient doesn't help one to understand the finer points and strengths of every class either....

Yes, that was sarcasm.

You guys can try to make this about me all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that barbs are overpowered. A fact that is common knowledge.

[-Edge-]

Originally Posted by Valorius

Yep, that about sums it up.

Play the game sometime sportsfan.

Yep, thats about the best way to ignore the truth, to talk about other random crap

[_dracus_]

Speaking of defensive barbarian, you must be speaking of barbarians setup to resist to piercing damage (gryfo and lion armor) and blunt passive lvl 15 which permits to resist to piercing. And after you add classical defensive buff and don't use berserk which is THE buff that make barbarians hit very hight.

All that is the kind of setup i'm using. I know Mattdoesrock and Znurre also use thoses kind of setup. However we clearly made a choice to be efficient against pierce. So hunters are maybe thoses who suffer the most of thoses choice. But I can assure you that 1vs1 I can't defeat a warlock who knows how to play (Ask Arkenion how he does).

Back to hunters versus defensive barbarian. It's doable even without a pet. If barb reduce to much dmg you will be forced to use sudden strike (Wudy do that pretty well). If he use unstoppable (the buff looks like strategic position) don't try to knock him down but you can confuse him so that he can't run fast to catch you. And I'm sure every respectable hunter knows how to click on escapist or SotW to fight. You can almost always use stun fist as good defense.

And never forget to choose your fight, I always love hunter that attack me while fully buffed. I had a nice fight few days ago with Compost. I killed him once cowardly when he was kicking the ass to a syrtis hunter. Then quickly after I saw him camo while I was with the Zerg and decided to leave the Zerg to see if I could come up with a good fight. And it happened IMO sooner than expected by both because Compoudious pet appeared out of camo while i was recasting all my buffs after previous fight. For the history Compoudious defeated me, So i guess we can say he choose the good fight for him, he could have run but he got me fair and square.

And don't forget that game ain't supposed to be balanced class by class. Archers totally owns mage, Mage owns warrior (Zordak for president!), guess who owns archers ?

[Valorius]

Originally Posted by gph

And don't forget that game ain't supposed to be balanced class by class. Archers totally owns mage, Mage owns warrior (Zordak for president!), guess who owns archers ?

I don't agree with your characterizations.

No one "owns" archers with the possible exception of some specific warjurer builds, who you list as being "owned" by archers. The reason i say this is because when you say "archers" you are talking about both hunters and marksmen. The few classes that marks have big problems with, hunters don't, and vice versa.

I would say that most warlocks do not "own" fighters, but good/smart ones sure seem to. Your 'average' warlock is little more than a speed bump for a good/smart knight/barb.

The 'good/smart' part is the most important. By far. There are some players playing all classes that are easy rp, and there are some players playing all classes that are extremely tough to beat.

However, in the superbuffed environment of fort/large battles, certain classes are inherently far more powerful than others. It's plainly obvious.

Originally Posted by Rated_R_Edge

Yep, thats about the best way to ignore the truth, to talk about other random crap

That's the way to set me straight Mr. Forum warrior. (sarcasm)

[-Edge-]

Originally Posted by Valorius

That's the way to set me straight Mr. Forum warrior. (sarcasm)

Well excuse me if you don't see me everday, see I don't play in the American timezone, I have an extensive programme from 8AM - 5PM, so I try to make the most of my time, more over I don't play on Ra anymore, but nonethless you still saw me last week anyway didn't you?

Originally Posted by Valorius

I don't agree with your characterizations.

No one "owns" archers with the possible exception of some specific warjurer builds, who you list as being "owned" by archers. The reason i say this is because when you say "archers" you are talking about both hunters and marksmen. The few classes that marks have big problems with, hunters don't, and vice versa.

I would say that most warlocks do not "own" fighters, but good/smart ones sure seem to. Your 'average' warlock is little more than a speed bump for a good/smart knight/barb.

The 'good/smart' part is the most important. By far. There are some players playing all classes that are easy rp, and there are some players playing all classes that are extremely tough to beat.

However, in the superbuffed environment of fort/large battles, certain classes are inherently far more powerful than others. It's plainly obvious.

Thats too bad, as a clan leader you should be open to all your members ideas, looks like its always about what you think though. Id say your half the hunter Dracus was, and he's already got great ideas and understanding for the warrior trees, hes openminded to ideas,

[Valorius]

Wake me when you've finished.

[-Edge-]

Originally Posted by Valorius

Wake me when you've finished.

Yeah see thats just the kind of response you make everytime someone makes an argument to you that you can't back up, if you want to make a point to someone try doing it thought valid arguments, an argument that shows to whom you are directly speaking to.

If you want to yawn to me everytime I say something your free to do it, or you could have a little more sense, but its your choice. Either way im finished with you, no one in the whole world could convice a stubborn mules ass like you. Probably not even your own mother, she has my pity.

[Valorius]

No son, it's how i respond to flaming babble, because trolls hate it.

You done yet? This was once a decent thread...

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