Warlock in battlezones

[mag mage]

Originally Posted by Cranddor

So if I believe some 'experts' in this thread, to play a warlock you have to be a superman with hundred of years of experience, absolutely skillfull, state of the art set, a born black belt warlock who dedicates his life to CoR. Otherwise you are an idiot noob whith two left hands.
On the other hand to play another subclass, like marks all you need is to stay 50m away from your target.

Ooookeeeeey.

It happens when you use other classes too, playing as warlock, you need at least to know what skill are you using (just read the description) and think a little before use it, believe me, its not hard. There are so many different ways to play warlock, for example: there are some warlocks like these marks that you're saying, with staff mastery and boss gear. Buff, choose a target and...Idk, let your character do everything (like barbarians, buff --> follow your enemy, no superman, see?). Lighting is a damage spell, oh, but first I have to dizzy the enemy because he will probably stun me, so... hmm... I use meteor first, then lighting. Come on, you're level 60, you have to do this against all classes if you want to stay alive, you have to think a little to play with any class.

Best,

[Evanz33]

No class in this game is as strong or as weak as some people exaggerate. I will use my own experience as an example.

When i started as a knight i used to think that barbs damage was insane and op That archers were unreachable but the class i hated the most was warlock (yup) for the mana stealing similar to an infinity dizzy.

Then i lveled a barb and saw that the damage inst as high (because i made mistakes with my class), That they die pretty fast, and that they are easy to keep away (Even for a knight).

That archers arent unreachable I mean how the hell i was supposed to reach them wihout using precise block to avoid some cc and this is again My fault.

And finally warlock. I learned that if I combo then right with Offensive instance I have a fair chance to beat them.

How i learned that?. Playing other classes and not only my main i saw how people using knight beated me and i learned from that.

What i want to say is that you dont need to play warlock (your main i used knight as example because is my main) for 4 years to be good with it. You need to learn what other classes can do to you and prevent it and i know that this thread is about warlock in TDM but it evolved to "Warlock is bad and need a buff in every single aspect" thread what is just a lie

[Kimahri_Ronso]

Originally Posted by Anunnaki

The only one trolling here is you and this thread. you can replace it with mag mage post, it is more legit.

You better stay by your barb and / or warju zeha, stfu

[Cranddor]

Originally Posted by mag mage

It happens when you use other classes too, playing as warlock, you need at least to know what skill are you using (just read the description) and think a little before use it, believe me, its not hard. There are so many different ways to play warlock, for example: there are some warlocks like these marks that you're saying, with staff mastery and boss gear. Buff, choose a target and...Idk, let your character do everything (like barbarians, buff --> follow your enemy, no superman, see?). Lighting is a damage spell, oh, but first I have to dizzy the enemy because he will probably stun me, so... hmm... I use meteor first, then lighting. Come on, you're level 60, you have to do this against all classes if you want to stay alive, you have to think a little to play with any class.

Best,

Thank you for your advice but pls what you are telling is common knowledge to every normal lock, lol. I am not a beginner, I have been playing locks since I started to play back in 2009. In the past locks were ok until they got severely nerfed and after the cap raising they were left behind the food chain. Staff mastery is a joke compared to the damage of the other classes. The only way to play lock nowadays and not ragequit is to go hunting low levels which I found really despicable. I have to throw up when I see locks posting videos of their 'adventures' killing low lvl grinders with half life.
I like wars. I play this game because of that. This is a war game not a hunting one. And no one in his sane mind can deny that locks are the easiest class to kill. I have all eight subclasses and alas i have been forced to leave my favourite subclass (lock) tired of being slaughtered the last years. I see many ppl starting a lock and leaving it very fast. Their comment is always the same 'locks sucks', 'locks dies too fast', etc 'i am going back to my conjurer, marks, bb, knight, whatever'. Why? because those are much better, they dont die in a sec. Nowadays you have to be a masochist to play a lock on a daily basis.
Nevertheless I still hope NGD does something for the locks because their actual state is pathetic. Until then I am not playing it anymore.

[MrFreaky]

i am not in total disagreement with the original thread, but as has been mentioned in a later post, the scenarios brought forth are very situational.

theoretically stating the outcome of a fight will not suffice.

the battle zone is a very peculiar environment to state the spectrum of usefulness of any given class. as a starter, it is a bounded arena lacking obstacles. secondly, we have a randomized variation of classes. hence the situational point of view.

warlock, being a class highly dependent on its surrounding allies (as shown by the popular reply to this thread) will prosper differently based on the surrounding classes - both ally and foe. overall retaining more of a disadvantage over the other 5 classes.

warlock being a support class does not cut it for me. we need more than simply dispelling our allies and ccing our enemies only to make a run for it.

[-Aniara-]

Ha, i got inspired to play my old Haven main a bit after reading this, i did try some BZ before and it went terrible But may as well be me, since server move my ping sucks

[Anunnaki]

Originally Posted by Kimahri_Ronso

You better stay by your barb and / or warju zeha, stfu

lmao i play all classes and lock was my first, you should be the one to stfu lock is not only darkness 5 mp5 and sucking mana with a lamai hidding inside a zerg like a rabbit.

[mind-trick]

This game is not that hard or complex lol. What mag mage wrote earlier are all just basic fundamentals. You dont have to be a god.
If you are talking about a scenario with only locks on your team i see where youre coming from. It mostly depends on what combination of classes there is. The main problem of warlocks in tdm is that there cant be more than 1. While archers are always a great addition to a team, doesnt matter if you got 1, 2 or 3 archers they are always useful.
Had a good read.

[kowocki]

I play Alsius and its funny to see posts about how lock is fine from Alsius players who use Alt+F4 instantly when they see warlock in their TDM team

[-Aniara-]

Originally Posted by -Aniara-

Ha, i got inspired to play my old Haven main a bit after reading this, i did try some BZ before and it went terrible But may as well be me, since server move my ping sucks

Well, yesterday all of a sudden warzone was flooded with locks! I failed to get a TDM so can't really add anything about that, but I had fun running around and at least for wz lock is ok, i do have nice gear but ping kills me at times and somethimes aca do;o)