Reverted back on Spell casting?!?!?!?!?!

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

thank you for the personal attacks daehenob, how many times to I have to say that when I try to argue something it's not only from a warlocks point of view unless I say it is.


I think you are mixing real life and game mechanics together. As I said before there's a system for evading/blocking/resisting powers, you shouldn't be able to move behind someone and cancel their spell, or out of range.


You shouldn't immobilize an enemy every twice a second, beside these spells can be canceled too by going behind them (mind push, will domain, prickling ivy) I'm quite familiar with my own class' spells and other classes spells too

you're treating me like a newbie, look at this post, do I mention only warlocks? No I don't This counts for all classes not just the warlock.
Besides there's a way of cancelling spells already, and that's dizzying/using some power which prevents certain spells.


if I'm behind you while you try to cast a spell you can't, and THAT is a tactic. When you go through a person to cancel his spell then it's a bug.

Sorry if this sounds offensive, but you are using the same old arguement in all your posts AWD.

And brad, I am a warlock, and it doesn't bother me too much if somebody cancels my cast by using those tactics.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

Sorry if this sounds offensive, but you are using the same old arguement in all your posts AWD.

And brad, I am a warlock, and it doesn't bother me too much if somebody cancels my cast by using those tactics.

doesn't, but if the same argument answers something with a new input from someone else and it isn't thought out with my previous input I'll repeat myself if nescesary

Originally Posted by daehenob

It's called "tactic" for a reason. From what I gather, AwD is mad because spells are not hitting because people are moving behind him. Well, he should change his tactic so this isn't a problem.

Originally Posted by daehnob

And no, it isn't just about warlocks or AwD, but he seems to be raising quite a stink about it. And seeing as how AwD is, in fact, a warlock, makes it about warlocks *and* AwD.

sorry, but I see this as a personal attack and not really an argument >_<, but that's out of the topic.

Originally Posted by daehnob

And how is moving out of the way not "evading" a spell, game mechanics aside? What about the mechanics of just not being in the range of the spell? Casting time (and the visual indication) is there for a reason: GTFO.

because it's not meant to cancel the spell as there's already a coded way of evading and cancelling a spell, that's dizzying while casting or using low profile as you suggested.
I once thought about how the code was set up, probably a bit like this just more abstract.

castspell()
{
If target is in front of person 180 degrees
initiate spellcasting
delay cast time
if target is in front of person 180 degrees
cast spell
}

I figured it was made because of the lag so you could not cast on people who are behind you.

Originally Posted by daehenob

Warlocks only? I mainly play a marks, and rest assured I am plagued by this "bug" just as much as you - or any melee class - are. I don't know about you, but when *I* see a warlock go into the casting stance, I either run/charge/low-pro, depending on the situation. (I know low-pro isn't a warlock or even a mage spell, but this thread isn't just about warlocks. )

I know you are plagued by that bug too, what you just said above is what I said in my previous post too, I'm not speaking warlock only unless I state I do it.
When I see an argument I usually presume that it's not an argument who is just pro players class but the general balance. I expect the same view upon my posts.
But that's just an opinion in the long run as if I see a post which looks like it's just pro one class or pro himself/herself I may see this but not reply as this.

You should use your spells and skills in a fort war and a pvp to evade spells and such, not move behind someone or out of range. It gives the word "team work" a much bigger meaning imo Since it would require someone else to cancel a potential warlock casting sultar, a barb wanting to do lightning strike or a marks casting lightning arrow by a dizzy spell if your own is in cooldown, it'll force you to say a name so your teammates know you spotted someone trying to bring down your army.

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

doesn't, but if the same argument answers something with a new input from someone else and it isn't thought out with my previous input I'll repeat myself if nescesary



sorry, but I see this as a personal attack and not really an argument >_<, but that's out of the topic.


because it's not meant to cancel the spell as there's already a coded way of evading and cancelling a spell, that's dizzying while casting or using low profile as you suggested.
I once thought about how the code was set up, probably a bit like this just more abstract.

castspell()
{
If target is in front of person 180 degrees
initiate spellcasting
delay cast time
if target is in front of person 180 degrees
cast spell
}

I figured it was made because of the lag so you could not cast on people who are behind you.


I know you are plagued by that bug too, what you just said above is what I said in my previous post too, I'm not speaking warlock only unless I state I do it.
When I see an argument I usually presume that it's not an argument who is just pro players class but the general balance. I expect the same view upon my posts.
But that's just an opinion in the long run as if I see a post which looks like it's just pro one class or pro himself/herself I may see this but not reply as this.

You should use your spells and skills in a fort war and a pvp to evade spells and such, not move behind someone or out of range. It gives the word "team work" a much bigger meaning imo Since it would require someone else to cancel a potential warlock casting sultar, a barb wanting to do lightning strike or a marks casting lightning arrow by a dizzy spell if your own is in cooldown, it'll force you to say a name so your teammates know you spotted someone trying to bring down your army.

The casting time for those spells is 1.5 - 3 seconds. Even with voicechat, it's impossible to react that fast when you're already focussing a certain target during a large fort war.

[magnet]

AwD, the thing is *you* want the game to behave differently because *you* think it's not meant as it is ; *we* think NGD meant it the way it is and considering it's been like this since Regnum was released and that everyone in the know (e.g: NGD & the balance team) considers it the proper behavior, it is *NOT* a bug.

So I understand you may not agree with the system in place, but you would be kind to stop calling it a bug and criticizing those using the tactic. It's not the first time you brought this up and yet you still speak the same.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by magnet

AwD, the thing is *you* want the game to behave differently because *you* think it's not meant as it is ; *we* think NGD meant it the way it is and considering it's been like this since Regnum was released and that everyone in the know (e.g: NGD & the balance team) considers it the proper behavior, it is *NOT* a bug.

So I understand you may not agree with the system in place, but you would be kind to stop calling it a bug and criticizing those using the tactic. It's not the first time you brought this up and yet you still speak the same.

it's a bug in my opinion and I'll keep calling it a bug sorry. I'm still not convinced until megrim or someone else says you're meant to be able to cancel a spell by running.
I will keep my opinion.
and I'm not critizising, I'm argumenting against.

[NightTwix]

i uses and still use this tactic of walking through the enemy
But i wouldnt mind if it gets changed. Its gray area in my eyes.

Walking through the enemy would still be a good tactic even if the current spell doesnt get canceled.
And didnt i read a posting from Megrim who said that the spells dont get canceled any more?

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by NightTwix

i uses and still use this tactic of walking through the enemy
But i wouldnt mind if it gets changed. Its gray area in my eyes.

Walking through the enemy would still be a good tactic even if the current spell doesnt get canceled.
And didnt i read a posting from Megrim who said that the spells dont get canceled any more?

I heard that it was fixed too, but apparently it isn't :s, it's still possible to do but hard when you have arcane devotion active