[NGD] Why did you stop fixing the game?

[Minorian]

Originally Posted by _Enio_

The increased range + unreliable close range defenses + new netcode + loss of speed buffs lead to a rather boring gameplay when compared to pre balance, this has nothing to do with gear..

Well my point is, it can be very enjoyable to even the power balance with your target. I play as a 45 marx with shitty gear, and trying to kill an enemy 50 with the reduced resources is more of a challenge, and quite enjoyable.

[_Enio_]

Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

Well my point is, it can be very enjoyable to even the power balance with your target. I play as a 45 marx with shitty gear, and trying to kill an enemy 50 with the reduced resources is more of a challenge, and quite enjoyable.

I dont see why there the gameplay would be less boring.

[Minorian]

Originally Posted by _Enio_

I dont see why there the gameplay would be less boring.

The challenge in itself is fun, having to think and anticipate what the enemy will do is what makes it fun. Its like the petless hunters of old, they gimped themselves, but still had fun and some managed to succeed despite all odds. Of course I rarely succeed, but its still fun

[Kaixo]

Originally Posted by _Enio_

Marks what? They got boring as hell.. fix!

I was talking about balance, they wanted to give it time but saw something in barbs and nerfed them a bit one week later, they said marks were unbalanced with high defenses and did nothing.
I don't know if they are boring, but with all those marks in the warzone it seems a lot of people find them funny.

[Shwish]

As a marksman, you aren't forced to use a 35 meter longbow and skill foresight and parabolic shot and hide in the back and shoot while you run away as soon as someone hits you back. If a class is boring, its because you chose to play it in a boring way.

I'm just saying.

[_Enio_]

Originally Posted by Shwish

As a marksman, you aren't forced to use a 35 meter longbow and skill foresight and parabolic shot and hide in the back and shoot while you run away as soon as someone hits you back.

No you arent forced but its rewarded to do so punished to not do so.

Theres currently too much broken stuff which i rely on close range to be anything but frustratee. And when comparing to prepatch the sheer dullness the fights now consist of is disappointing.

Originally Posted by Shwish

If a class is boring, its because you chose to play it in a boring way.

Glad you are happy with marks. Care to elaborate a bit where the close range fun lies for you? Maybe i understand better then.

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

Originally Posted by _Enio_

Glad you are happy with marks. Care to elaborate a bit where the close range fun lies for you? Maybe i understand better then.

i have to disagree. to get recurring fun out of a class, you have to switch things up a bit, try different setups and configurations. you will be surprised at what kinds of crazy shit you can come up with that are actually very effective.

maybe you should lay down your thork/eve/daen bow for a few minutes and try a short bow, if it doesn't work for you, just go back to what you did before.

[HidraA]

Originally Posted by Shwish

... its because you chose to play it in a boring way.

I'm just saying.

....and you know another way to play as marks?
....balance perfectly between those with uber gears and those with normal gears...hmm then there are no people with uber gears.
....about how boring the game is ,is given by lack of speed, almost zero difference between items, and abuse of dots ...

however the game went from one speed to a passive ...
and this is impose by "balance".

Originally Posted by Hamster

i have to disagree. to get recurring fun out of a class, you have to switch things up a bit, try different setups and configurations. you will be surprised at what kinds of crazy shit you can come up with that are actually very effective.

I'm sorry ... but what you say is not true at all ... melle fight for Marks, is completely destroyed ...
only people who say this are those who hate people with ubergears ... and they want it to stay that way ..
items are now useless, i stay at 50 m and shoot and kill many people using Dots, even if i have normal market items ....

[Zas_]

Originally Posted by _Enio_

No you arent forced but its rewarded to do so punished to not do so.

Theres currently too much broken stuff which i rely on close range to be anything but frustratee. And when comparing to prepatch the sheer dullness the fights now consist of is disappointing.



Glad you are happy with marks. Care to elaborate a bit where the close range fun lies for you? Maybe i understand better then.

+1

While i was used to play with very short range i had to switch to longer range with "balance" update, because life expectancy is rather as short as your range (even with +5 range from update).

Movement speed nerf, broken Sotw, new Escapist, nerfed LowPro, lowered damages, etc... are responsible of this.

Most markmen i know who were playing with SB now are using LB (or quit).

I feel situation is even worse for hunters since they have lower damages and lower defense, and only small passive speed bonus among marksmen speed.

Frankly, i understand people using very long range (full range available for marksmen), because between boring gameplay and boring runs from save, they just choose what fit better.

I'm laughing when people are trying to explain Enio how to play RO...

[e30G]

Originally Posted by Shwish

As a marksman, you aren't forced to use a 35 meter longbow and skill foresight and parabolic shot and hide in the back and shoot while you run away as soon as someone hits you back. If a class is boring, its because you chose to play it in a boring way.

I'm just saying.

Every class has multiple ways to play it. However if you strive to be the best at it, you will tend to gravitate towards the most effective setups or playstyle. This may not be the most fun way to play though. The dilemma is what if your idea of fun is to be the best you can in the game? Then such compromises just isn't going to work for you.