Barb build

[Gabburtjuh]

430 >.>

[Knekelvoeste]

Originally Posted by Gabburtjuh

430 >.>

Im talking about 25 STR :P

[Altara]

Originally Posted by Donatoo

All the barbarian setup's are the same lately, plus the mindless southcross spamming (should have more cooldown).

Ignorant statements like that actually annoy me to no end. (Though I agree it could use a longer cool down.)
If you have a good slashing weapon why not use the skills it offers?
Just like if you have a good blunt weapon why not use the skills it offers?
I have a good slashing weapon, so I take advantage of it, using accurate swings and southcross, to do damage like a barbarian is made to.
If I had a good blunt weapon, I would take advantage of it and use brutal impacts and mind squasher.
Hell this goes with any class, Warlocks use lightning and meteor excessively. Hunters use confuse and ambush excessively.
I know a few slashing barbs who dont use southcross and that is because they have the attack speed to compensate for the lack of damage.

People who use the term "Southcross monkey" are retarded, period. If using the skills given to you is being a monkey or mindless, then take a look at your set up and the skills you use and please commence banging your head against a wall.

[_Emin_]

Originally Posted by Altara

Ignorant statements like that actually annoy me to no end. (Though I agree it could use a longer cool down.)
If you have a good slashing weapon why not use the skills it offers?
Just like if you have a good blunt weapon why not use the skills it offers?
I have a good slashing weapon, so I take advantage of it, using accurate swings and southcross, to do damage like a barbarian is made to.
If I had a good blunt weapon, I would take advantage of it and use brutal impacts and mind squasher.
Hell this goes with any class, Warlocks use lightning and meteor excessively. Hunters use confuse and ambush excessively.
I know a few slashing barbs who dont use southcross and that is because they have the attack speed to compensate for the lack of damage.

People who use the term "Southcross monkey" are retarded, period. If using the skills given to you is being a monkey or mindless, then take a look at your set up and the skills you use and please commence banging your head against a wall.

ok, BUT SC is 10 sec cd with 155/165 % dmg that's the problem, how would it be to see ppl using 155/165% dmg with hammer or spear(no not beast attack cus it has 50 sec cd) and 10 sec cd?

[Altara]

Originally Posted by _Emin_

ok, BUT SC is 10 sec cd with 155/165 % dmg that's the problem, how would it be to see ppl using 155/165% dmg with hammer or spear(no not beast attack cus it has 50 sec cd) and 10 sec cd?

Originally Posted by Altara

Ignorant statements like that actually annoy me to no end. (Though I agree it could use a longer cool down.)

Bolded and highlighted for you.
Blunt users have something close to it, when testing I found it only does about 100 dmg less then my SC. Its a little thing called Forceful Blow. Low mana and 8 second cool down.
For spears they have Ripost and Gutting. Gutting not as good as SC and Forceful Blow, still could be used with a CD of 6. Ripost has a 1 second cast time, but thats nothing when a target is knocked, with a chance of getting up to (or over)+200% Dmg with a 20 second cool down and is still lower mana then SC.

Each damage tree is similar in its own rights, I think the "problem" with balance now days is that people fail to look and see the options the other sides have.

[Gabburtjuh]

Originally Posted by Altara

Bolded and highlighted for you.
Blunt users have something close to it, when testing I found it only does about 100 dmg less then my SC. Its a little thing called Forceful Blow. Low mana and 8 second cool down.
For spears they have Ripost and Gutting. Gutting not as good as SC and Forceful Blow, still could be used with a CD of 6. Ripost has a 1 second cast time, but thats nothing when a target is knocked, with a chance of getting up to (or over)+200% Dmg with a 20 second cool down and is still lower mana then SC.

Each damage tree is similar in its own rights, I think the "problem" with balance now days is that people fail to look and see the options the other sides have.

Bolded for you to, forcefull has what, 200 blunt and +100% attack dmg at lvl 5, that's WAY less as 160% with a very slow wep

200%, last time I checked it was 100% +60% at lvl 5...

[Altara]

Originally Posted by Gabburtjuh

Bolded for you to, forcefull has what, 200 blunt and +100% attack dmg at lvl 5, that's WAY less as 160% with a very slow wep

200%, last time I checked it was 100% +60% at lvl 5...

Originally Posted by Altara

Bolded and highlighted for you.
Blunt users have something close to it, when testing I found it only does about 100 dmg less then my SC. Its a little thing called Forceful Blow. Low mana and 8 second cool down.

Take into consideration that blunt weapons already have a base damage higher then slashing weapons. In the test stated above it was my great claymore (with great stats) vs a store bought blunt. I will admit 100 or so damage less is worse then SC but it is an option.
Also here is the trainer http://trainer.claninquisition.org/trainer.html
Where you can see for yourself the stats on Forceful Blow and Ripost. If you still dont get it, by the damage percentages (ripost) theres a place for the "Chance percentage damage boost"
Hence the:

Originally Posted by Altara

with a chance of getting up to (or over)+200% Dmg with a 20 second cool down and is still lower mana then SC.

[sobis]

I would like to see a 1.6k dmg Forcefull blow

[Gabburtjuh]

Originally Posted by Altara

Take into consideration that blunt weapons already have a base damage higher then slashing weapons. In the test stated above it was my great claymore (with great stats) vs a store bought blunt. I will admit 100 or so damage less is worse then SC but it is an option.
Also here is the trainer http://trainer.claninquisition.org/trainer.html
Where you can see for yourself the stats on Forceful Blow and Ripost. If you still dont get it, by the damage percentages (ripost) theres a place for the "Chance percentage damage boost"
Hence the:

Ugh, you dun get my point >.> (and you're still wrong on ripost, it's 100% dmg +60% dmg, that 60% dmg has a chance of 25-40-55-75-100% to work.

Now about forcefull, first of all, it only has 100% +180-240, while SC has 100% +55-65%, so, +dmg buffs work more effective for SC, and while your SC did more damage as forcefull, your SC was with a slow weapon, and forcefull with a very slow weapon, so that doesn't compare either, waiting for your view on this ;P

[_Emin_]

Originally Posted by Altara

Take into consideration that blunt weapons already have a base damage higher then slashing weapons. In the test stated above it was my great claymore (with great stats) vs a store bought blunt. I will admit 100 or so damage less is worse then SC but it is an option.
Also here is the trainer http://trainer.claninquisition.org/trainer.html
Where you can see for yourself the stats on Forceful Blow and Ripost. If you still dont get it, by the damage percentages (ripost) theres a place for the "Chance percentage damage boost"
Hence the:

I dont see differense with forcefull blow lol, even my normals are higher with TFB than using forcefull blow, imo it's useless and I'd rather a SC for hammer than this crappy spell