Haven Syrtis War Strategy According to Imgur

[Psynocide]

Originally Posted by Raoh

The real issue here is that syrtis is such a realm browbeater, they think they can get away with any behaviour they want

Every realm throws its weight around once the inhabitants find they have the potential to do so with impunity.
Ignis have done so on Horus, Alsius have done so on Raven and we are guilty for doing so on Haven.
We're numerous, yes and our numbers are fairly consistent throughout the day yet we have to do something otherwise we may as well log off - that's not to say killing grinders and whatnot is the ideal activity but if the other two realms simply cannot provide a challenge, yes it results in a fort farm.
We're not to blame for population issues, you cannot reasonably expect players to abstain from joining in simply because there are too many of us.

On a vaguely related note; I was rather glad Alsius managed to successfully put our gate in danger a few days ago, my realm hadn't been invaded in so long, we had forgotten the taste and some of my realm-mates honestly deserved the lesson in humility, that is to say, we should not take things for granted.

[Raoh]

Originally Posted by Psynocide

On a vaguely related note; I was rather glad Alsius managed to successfully put our gate in danger a few days ago, my realm hadn't been invaded in so long, we had forgotten the taste and some of my realm-mates honestly deserved the lesson in humility, that is to say, we should not take things for granted.

Draw them in with prospect of gain, take them by confusion. Use humility to make them haughty. Tire them by flight. Cause division among them. Attack when they are unprepared, make your move when they do not expect it.

A lesson in humility is never a bad thing Psynocide.

We have devastated the alsius realm. We have 3 gems now.

[Cannas]

Originally Posted by Raoh

Draw them in with prospect of gain, take them by confusion. Use humility to make them haughty. Tire them by flight. Cause division among them. Attack when they are unprepared, make your move when they do not expect it.

A lesson in humility is never a bad thing Psynocide.

We have devastated the alsius realm. We have 3 gems now.

Well you invaded alsius, have 3 gems, so why reason of this thread?, u worried about what gotlight do at alsius inner? http://imgur.com/KztIS , thought you was worried about your dangerous desert. Why i never see you on Raoh?

[Raoh]

Because I saw a pic on Imgur that was epic lulz, and the pic is right about how some, though not all, of you greens work. And I thought it was funny. Apparently a variety of people in this thread, Klutu included, seemed to think it was funny too.

And honestly Cannas, this threads view count is over 3000 views and continues to grow. That means that more than one person has interest in it, or your just raging each time someone replies to it, either way, its certainly a platform as a whole for people who arent green, red included, to discuss with intelligence, how greens dont attack intelligently. The fact of the matter is, you lack any concept of humility Cannas, as was stated by Psy, a member of your own realm, to whom I think you should listen. And if you dont, it only proves the over-inflated hubris you have for yourself, and your inability to engage in intelligent conversation regarding the issue.

Either way, I dont really care what you think. Because its obvious youll never change. Louna obviously didnt teach you any humility either.

[Raoh]

Oh, and Cannas, oh great and wise, and all knowing Cannas, you caught me. Totally. Oh ye of knowing everything about everyone.

Yep, here I am, in all my glory. Waiting In Medenet for you to come and get some Lock goodness.

[Tenel_Ka]

Lol

"Either way, I dont really care what you think."

But I'll log into RO anyway, PM somebody to confirm the date, take a screenshot and post it on RO forums so I can make a comment to Cannas.

But not because I care.

[Raoh]

Tryin to get this thread back on topic.

Things we know about Syrtis and their actions, and although not all Syrtians are guilty of it, a good number of them are.

1. Syrtis has historically (pre boat accessibility) always led their zerg from Trelleborg fort. With no boats to invade with this was almost a 95% garuntee. Take Trelleborg away from them, they lose focus and die. Im not really sure why this was the case (pre-boat).

2. When they do zerg, they lead from a frontal attack. I don't think any Syrtian has ever heard of the words Flanking, Mobile Defense, Much less even know what a Vanguard field formation is, or even understand the term Feigned retreat. Forget ever having read or understand any kind of tactic whatsoever.

3. Devasated realm attacks. Syrtis will invariably always favor their weakest opponent. The drive to get Warmaster coins is so irresistible that Syrtis will always attack a devastated realm to get them (by this one can attribute this to the fact that they clearly don't have the numbers to mount a full scale attack on the non devastated realm). You cant drain blood from a turnip.

4. Ease of position -- Syrtis is always going to boat attack, because they lack the skills, and or possibly number, required to attack the front of the gate, and then get the second gate down. Why they don't attack both sides of the gate, is beyond me. (See Number 2, for a paralleling concept).

5. Scorched Earth. Syrtis, once having invaded said realm will kill everything in site (granted they have the number to do this), and even, has seen by evidence in this thread, do so at even epically silly levels, and stoop to attacking players not even 20% of their own levels, shown here to be called Lowbie killing.

6. Grind Honor. Syrtis kill grinders, of any kind, and invariably anywhere. Not saying that anyone doesnt do it either, but Ive had more Blues leave me alone, and Ive left my share of blues and greens alone in the field. Attempting to abridge any kind of field respect from a Syrtis player (blowing kisses, waving, sitting) is just going to get you killed faster, and without quarter.

7. Stealthy Hiding. When Syrtis has invaded your realm, they will often choose (if not enough number of players could enter the realm) hiding from you, running from you, and doing whatever it takes to keep you from them, long enough for them to kill the noble, or whatever other silliness they feel the need to do. This means hiding in buildings, behind bushes, up on top of mountains that aren't easy to climb, and in areas you would least expect them to hide. They are really good at hiding actually.

[Carn]

Originally Posted by Raoh

Tryin to get this thread back on topic.

Things we know about Syrtis and their actions, and although not all Syrtians are guilty of it, a good number of them are.

1. Syrtis has historically (pre boat accessibility) always led their zerg from Trelleborg fort. With no boats to invade with this was almost a 95% garuntee. Take Trelleborg away from them, they lose focus and die. Im not really sure why this was the case (pre-boat).

2. When they do zerg, they lead from a frontal attack. I don't think any Syrtian has ever heard of the words Flanking, Mobile Defense, Much less even know what a Vanguard field formation is, or even understand the term Feigned retreat. Forget ever having read or understand any kind of tactic whatsoever.

3. Devasated realm attacks. Syrtis will invariably always favor their weakest opponent. The drive to get Warmaster coins is so irresistible that Syrtis will always attack a devastated realm to get them (by this one can attribute this to the fact that they clearly don't have the numbers to mount a full scale attack on the non devastated realm). You cant drain blood from a turnip.

4. Ease of position -- Syrtis is always going to boat attack, because they lack the skills, and or possibly number, required to attack the front of the gate, and then get the second gate down. Why they don't attack both sides of the gate, is beyond me. (See Number 2, for a paralleling concept).

5. Scorched Earth. Syrtis, once having invaded said realm will kill everything in site (granted they have the number to do this), and even, has seen by evidence in this thread, do so at even epically silly levels, and stoop to attacking players not even 20% of their own levels, shown here to be called Lowbie killing.

6. Grind Honor. Syrtis kill grinders, of any kind, and invariably anywhere. Not saying that anyone doesnt do it either, but Ive had more Blues leave me alone, and Ive left my share of blues and greens alone in the field. Attempting to abridge any kind of field respect from a Syrtis player (blowing kisses, waving, sitting) is just going to get you killed faster, and without quarter.

7. Stealthy Hiding. When Syrtis has invaded your realm, they will often choose (if not enough number of players could enter the realm) hiding from you, running from you, and doing whatever it takes to keep you from them, long enough for them to kill the noble, or whatever other silliness they feel the need to do. This means hiding in buildings, behind bushes, up on top of mountains that aren't easy to climb, and in areas you would least expect them to hide. They are really good at hiding actually.

We do these things ... because we can. If Ignis or Alsius had our numbers they would do the same. Stop complaining about everything and go WAR. Syrtis always wars no matter how small the zerg is. I'd suggest you do the same.

And don't start whining about how underpopulated you are , or how overpopulated we are (trololol) BE A MAN.

[The_Krome_Dragon]

Originally Posted by Raoh

Tryin to get this thread back on topic.....

Interesting how u say this after tenel kas post>.>
My Responces to the rest of ur post:

1)Though i havent been in every invasion Every invasion preboats ive been in has launched the gate attack from aggers.

2)The next time i see any rlm use true formations/tactics will be the first, and when u have a large zerg tactics become nigh impossible to implement.

3)This usually happens bec we have one fort and arent being attacked, so instead of standing around doin nothing we take the castle and invade. This has been the case in 90% of the invasions ive seen of a devastated rlm.

4)Again something every rlm does when able and i cant say i blame them. If u have the choice of attacking a well guarded wall and a relatively unguarded wall, which would you choose? As for attacking both sides it has been done before with a couple variations but usually in an invasion u already have unbeatable numbers and thus there is no need.

5)i) When the wz offers no entertainment as far as waring how can u not expect player to go to the inner rlm looking for action?
5)ii)Evidence? U mean that pic in the original post that was made by some enraged player/troll? hardly qualified to be evidence good sir, and if im correct u said b4 its only purpose was for a chuckle or 2, not to be seen as complete and irrefutible evidence of how a rlm/clan/grp/person acts. Without actually proof ur comment about this is just speculation based on heavy biases.

6)Everyone kills grinders, Called hunting last i checked. Its been a part of this game for as long as i can remember. Syrtis currently has the most ppl so obviously ur going to see syrtis hunters the most.

7)When the goal of the player is to kill the noble, then does it not make sense to avoid the attention of the opposing rlm and thus lowering the chance of being killed b4 u achieve your goal instead of waving a gigantic banner around saying "I AM HERE PLZ SUMMON YOUR FORCES TO KILL ME"? Every rlm does this.

[Raoh]

Originally Posted by Carn

We do these things ... because we can. If Ignis or Alsius had our numbers they would do the same. Stop complaining about everything and go WAR. Syrtis always wars no matter how small the zerg is. I'd suggest you do the same.

And don't start whining about how underpopulated you are , or how overpopulated we are (trololol) BE A MAN.

Honesty has got to be a positive point for you Carn.

Self admission that you do indeed do the things listed in the previous post , shows however, a lack of humility, and that perhaps Psy/Psynapse/Psynocide is right, you could stand to eat a little humble pie and not take things for granted.

Rather than trying to discuss it you merely take the cavalier road. Im big, Im undefeatable, I can do what I want, and guess what, Ill do it again. Such arrogant overtones dont make you look all that smart either. I guess its true what they say, As the size of a mob increases, its over intelligence exponentially decreases.

When a few of my red buddies crowded the alsius noble the other day, they went in, killed it, and telied out. I dont see any green doin that. Greens would just stand around and kill people aimlessly and without wanton care. Well that or constantly repeat kill the noble until everyone in the group had it, killin lowbies along the way.

Most greens dont fight honorably. Never will. And you wonder why so few a people outside your realm respect you. And why some inside your own realm dont respect you at all. Says alot really.

To Krome,

The voracity of your posts makes me laugh. I think you rage alot. Its funny.