Poll: opinions on the transfer idea. - Page 7

halvdan · 10-22-2018, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aver

So, no account stashes... Give me time to empty it :U

I think you have enough time, not like it's happening tomorrow(though that would be nice)

Lebeau · 10-22-2018, 05:12 PM

We can safely assume as a given that there are already multi-realmers on ra, yes? We can further also assume that many players know how to avoid being detected as multi-realmers by NGD, yes? If truly so, then what does "Transferring a character of one realm to another server that already has characters in other realm will not be possible. Either you delete all your characters in the destination server or we try to find a solution, but it will not be giving the chance to have an account with characters in different servers. This was a mistake in the past and will never happen again" actually look like once all of this, that, & the other plays itself out? This intention is a fine thing, but how to make it inescapable reality is another thing entirely....Good Luck with that....

Eizaix · 10-22-2018, 05:49 PM

That's easy: anyone who still would have characters in different realm than the ones asked to be transferred would be denied the option until the requested task (possibly deleting the existing characters) is completed.

Aver · 10-22-2018, 06:06 PM

Thinking about it, it's a little complex...
E.g. I made a character in Alsius Haven, for fun, to enjoy the game. Made it 60, WM, WM jewelry, spent some Xime buying hair, mounts, hair color, etc, etc, etc... One or two lucky boxes. But then, Haven got empty, so I moved to Ra, made a character in Syrtis because I wanted to try something new, it became 60, WM, WM jewelry, spent some Xime buying hair, mounts, hair color et, etc, etc... One or two lucky boxes. But then merge comes and I will need to delete one of those characters. Don't you think it's a little unfair?

I'm just giving an example of what some players could think. Thank God I'm not in that situation, but I know of people who are... Tough decisions will be made.

Kind regards!

Eizaix · 10-22-2018, 06:38 PM

Well in such cases maybe it could be done that the ''transferred'' characters are ''copied'' on to a completely new account instead of the existing ones?

The main problem is that no one wants to promote multi realming, therefore some will most likely have to face this choice of which characters to keep. I can imagine that being a terrible situation but to be real, if you already have pretty cool characters in Ra server in a different realm then why bother transferring the old ones?

Lebeau · 10-23-2018, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Eizaix

That's easy: anyone who still would have characters in different realm than the ones asked to be transferred would be denied the option until the requested task (possibly deleting the existing characters) is completed.

...uh, Eizaix, & NGD just somehow knows who all the players who should be denied are how exactly?...

...(consider the following)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lebeau

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...How? Exactly? Is there ANY possible way at all to do this thing? THAT was wtf I was asking, bruh...

Eizaix · 10-23-2018, 05:21 AM

We were talking about the cases when u have characters in two dif realms on the two servers within the same account.

Using several accounts for changing realms is not relevant to this topic.

Lebeau · 10-23-2018, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eizaix

...Using several accounts for changing realms is not relevant to this topic.

Uh, dude, that's the ENTIRE relevant reason NGD wishes to restrict these transfers. It's why they demand that you delete characters if this transfer will result in you having toons in 2 or more realms on Ra. To ... avoid ... using ... several ... accounts ... for ... changing ... realms. "Wishes", I say. The point I'm making, that you just can't seem to grasp here, is that NGD mostly doesn't know who owns what accounts. If they don't know, they cannot rightly determine who may transfer, & yet also, who should not be allowed to move. Righto? How do they ever go about strictly enforcing their no-multiple-realms-on-Ra-via-transfer policy if they don't know who all owns what exact accounts on Ra & on Haven? Am I getting thru?....

As to already having an account with one set of characters in one realm on Haven, but in another realm on Ra, then quite obviously from what Adrian has already said, they would not allow you to ever transfer those Haven toons to Ra, unless you were first willing to delete all of your original Ra characters from the account.

Eizaix · 10-23-2018, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lebeau

Uh, dude, that's the ENTIRE relevant reason NGD wishes to restrict these transfers..

I stay to the same. Multirealming in general or having several accounts with different realms is not relevant to this specific topic.

Please do not lead this thread the same way you have done on almost all other threads on English forum. Focus on the issue discussed currently: which items should or should not be considered unique and why?

Suggestions on how to deal with cases when you have characters on two different realms on these servers within the same account?

Other useful thoughts concerning possible transfer.

Scarlett_UK · 10-23-2018, 08:03 AM

Adrian, thanks for clearing a few queries up earlier in the post but I do have a couple of thoughts/questions if possible?

- Account Stashes
You said items in these will not transfer at present, but if a larger account stash has been purchased on Haven, would that account stash size then transfer to Ra?
- Characters
If, for example, a player had max characters on their Haven Alsius account and some Ra Alsius characters on the same account, what would you envisage happening in this scenario?
- Clans
Would clans and their existing experience & rosters be deleted or move across as is?

The clans question may seem minor, but I am aware that Ra has no realm chat like Haven (which is possibly no bad thing), however I and many other Haven players do have several players not in the same clan whom I enjoy playing with and talking to, just trying to think of options to retain the community spirit that does still exist amongst some players.

As for item binding? I don't care, I would just welcome the opportunity to play the game with other players as it is intended and have fun. I have been recently leveling a character (same realm as my Haven account, blue is forever!) on Ra and the majority of the community has been very friendly, although as a non-Spanish speaker, Google Translate has become my new best friend! Leveling in Ra has been fun and has brought back a lot of why I really got hooked on this game initially, so I welcome the news of a server transfer.

View Poll Results: Account-bound gear for transferred characters, Haven to Ra. How do you feel about it?
I'm okay with an account-bound restriction on transfer.	35	47.95%
I'm okay with an account-bound restriction, except I'd like to sell gear to merchants.	4	5.48%
I'd be okay with it if we make the restriction only for epic-level gear and above.	2	2.74%
I'd be okay with it if we make the restriction only for boss gear.	13	17.81%
I've already got toons on Ra, so I don't care about restrictions on gear after transfer.	10	13.70%
Hell, no! If NGD does this, I'm never playing this game again.	9	12.33%
No. I will not transfer my character under those conditions.	19	26.03%
I don't care what NGD does. I left this game a long time ago and I'm never coming back.	3	4.11%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

10-23-2018, 08:03 AM	#70
Scarlett_UK Pledge Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 2	Few Thoughts/Questions Adrian, thanks for clearing a few queries up earlier in the post but I do have a couple of thoughts/questions if possible? - Account Stashes You said items in these will not transfer at present, but if a larger account stash has been purchased on Haven, would that account stash size then transfer to Ra? - Characters If, for example, a player had max characters on their Haven Alsius account and some Ra Alsius characters on the same account, what would you envisage happening in this scenario? - Clans Would clans and their existing experience & rosters be deleted or move across as is? The clans question may seem minor, but I am aware that Ra has no realm chat like Haven (which is possibly no bad thing), however I and many other Haven players do have several players not in the same clan whom I enjoy playing with and talking to, just trying to think of options to retain the community spirit that does still exist amongst some players. As for item binding? I don't care, I would just welcome the opportunity to play the game with other players as it is intended and have fun. I have been recently leveling a character (same realm as my Haven account, blue is forever!) on Ra and the majority of the community has been very friendly, although as a non-Spanish speaker, Google Translate has become my new best friend! Leveling in Ra has been fun and has brought back a lot of why I really got hooked on this game initially, so I welcome the news of a server transfer.

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10-22-2018, 05:12 PM	#62
Lebeau Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: 'B-F-Egypt', Virginia, U.S.A. (please pity & forgive us poor american fools!). Posts: 605	We can safely assume as a given that there are already multi-realmers on ra, yes? We can further also assume that many players know how to avoid being detected as multi-realmers by NGD, yes? If truly so, then what does "Transferring a character of one realm to another server that already has characters in other realm will not be possible. Either you delete all your characters in the destination server or we try to find a solution, but it will not be giving the chance to have an account with characters in different servers. This was a mistake in the past and will never happen again" actually look like once all of this, that, & the other plays itself out? This intention is a fine thing, but how to make it inescapable reality is another thing entirely....Good Luck with that....

10-22-2018, 05:49 PM	#63
Eizaix Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 63	That's easy: anyone who still would have characters in different realm than the ones asked to be transferred would be denied the option until the requested task (possibly deleting the existing characters) is completed.

10-22-2018, 06:06 PM	#64
Aver Initiate Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 108	Thinking about it, it's a little complex... E.g. I made a character in Alsius Haven, for fun, to enjoy the game. Made it 60, WM, WM jewelry, spent some Xime buying hair, mounts, hair color, etc, etc, etc... One or two lucky boxes. But then, Haven got empty, so I moved to Ra, made a character in Syrtis because I wanted to try something new, it became 60, WM, WM jewelry, spent some Xime buying hair, mounts, hair color et, etc, etc... One or two lucky boxes. But then merge comes and I will need to delete one of those characters. Don't you think it's a little unfair? I'm just giving an example of what some players could think. Thank God I'm not in that situation, but I know of people who are... Tough decisions will be made. Kind regards!

10-22-2018, 06:38 PM	#65
Eizaix Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 63	Well in such cases maybe it could be done that the ''transferred'' characters are ''copied'' on to a completely new account instead of the existing ones? The main problem is that no one wants to promote multi realming, therefore some will most likely have to face this choice of which characters to keep. I can imagine that being a terrible situation but to be real, if you already have pretty cool characters in Ra server in a different realm then why bother transferring the old ones?

10-23-2018, 05:21 AM	#67
Eizaix Apprentice Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 63	We were talking about the cases when u have characters in two dif realms on the two servers within the same account. Using several accounts for changing realms is not relevant to this topic.