Witness a true American female...

[Leadoffhitter]

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

And the most important thing here: is that this message is conveyed through a conservative, fundamentalist political group in which females have always taken a back seat to males.

Just a conservative party trying to clean up their underwear in front of the world after getting someone like Mr Bush into US Presidence, even if they know for sure that they're going to lose.

I would really be impressed if they give the opportunity to a woman when they are not in a presidential run that is already lost and try to do the ultimate movement to change things around.
If they do so after another "Lewinsky affair" from a republican president I would really stare at the girl taking that importance, but not right now. They just want to make us (and the electors from that party) to look to other place than there where things where left by the last republican candidate (Mr Bush).

That woman seems to me a woman beeing used to be an smoke curtain... (and it sucks)

Republican party knows from Miss Hilton that she is not going to accept being used for McCain's campaign, so now they try to get their second chance for it...

[backe]

okay....lets take a time out for just one minute.

Skatz, I don't think your response to Ironfoot's initial post was necessarily warranted. He's simply stating that in general, the ideology of birth out of wed-lock is looked upon as a sin in the eyes of Christianity. Beyond that, I have to agree with him that for most people having a child at that age would be bad for both parent and offspring alike. I was certainly not mature enough to deal with the responsibilities of caring for a child at that age, or even now, over 10 years later. This, however, certainly leaves plenty of room for exceptions, which after reading the poem that your son wrote, I could see being applied to your situation. In any case, I don't think you should take offense to this, as I think all of us know MANY (perhaps the majority) people of that age that are in no way capable of mothering (or fathering) a child.

To the point, I don't think he meant any offense to you specifically, and just because he makes a generalization (which may or may not be true) doesn't mean you should take it personally.

Hell_bound,
Your infatuation with this....woman is nothing short of astounding. So much so, that this is the only remark I will make about it.

and this?

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

Think of the high intelligence she must have in order to be picked VP, mayor of Alaska and other positions she has had...

PLEEEEASE, pass me some of the stuff you are smoking. As marchalain pointed out, intelligence has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with holding public office. In fact, I would go so far as to say that I actually question the intelligence of individuals who aspire for political power.

[Angel_de_Combate]

Originally Posted by Ironfoot

Now you say that i act immature? Judgement based on age is crap? Then why state makes you an adult at age of 18 or 21? Cuz age doesnt mean anything right?

Never said you were immature..you did lol

Originally Posted by Ironfoot

How do you see that?
You feel better when you attack me? Im younger than you but guess who is being immature now..

Not really i dont give a shite..like you said to me

Originally Posted by Ironfoot

You dont seem to get my point.For me the point is proven already. Too bad, it seems its very hard for you to be honest,(even over the internet) what you do is justify yourself, thats a very powerful thing, it can ease your mind (in my humble oppinion).
May i ask does the father of your kids live with you? Its a personal question, so dont feel obliged to answer it.
Regards.

Youve proved jack shit..and im very honest ask anyone who plays this game. My mind is clear i did what i needed to do..my life is my own i just dont like like people like you making judgements, that my dear has been proven.
As for the last question, youve lost the right to ask me..so basically NO, i wont answer !

[Har]

If Obama wins,Hell-Bound will be the crazy man that killed kennedy may years ago.

[Ironfoot]

No no no, you said ill probably never be ready for kids, and i think people that are ready for kids are mature, so that makes me immature for a lifetime.
Except ofcourse if for good parenting you dont need maturity, which i seriously doubt.

I like to have a power of choice over everything in my life. Will i smoke, will i do drugs, will i lead a healthy life, will i get proper education. Will i have kids is one of those choices. Thing is you didnt have a choice, i mean except for abortion, which is rather extreme thing. And you said yourself that it was a mistake, but you kept on going. Thats why i said i proven my point, that it is a mistake to have child, while still being a teenager, and still in high school.
Nothing more, i asked my parents about it, same oppinion..Backe gave his oppinion, thats why i said that.

Please dont feel offended, i didnt wish to do that, i learn something new every day, and with my girlfriend i practice safe sex. From now on it will be even more safe.

Regards.

[Angel_de_Combate]

Originally Posted by backe

okay....lets take a time out for just one minute.

Skatz, I don't think your response to Ironfoot's initial post was necessarily warranted. He's simply stating that in general, the ideology of birth out of wed-lock is looked upon as a sin in the eyes of Christianity. Beyond that, I have to agree with him that for most people having a child at that age would be bad for both parent and offspring alike. I was certainly not mature enough to deal with the responsibilities of caring for a child at that age, or even now, over 10 years later. This, however, certainly leaves plenty of room for exceptions, which after reading the poem that your son wrote, I could see being applied to your situation.

Takes maturity to admit that.

Originally Posted by backe

In any case, I don't think you should take offense to this, as I think all of us know MANY (perhaps the majority) people of that age that are in no way capable of mothering (or fathering) a child..

I have taken offense, and i still dont agree with you, plus you need to ask more people to make a statement like that one

Originally Posted by backe

To the point, I don't think he meant any offense to you specifically, and just because he makes a generalization (which may or may not be true) doesn't mean you should take it personally.

I know not to me specifically..but to all the young mums who have babies and do the best they can, who shouldnt be criticised by people like ironfoot, for making that hard decision to keep there baby and for MOST it a hard decision.

ONE in three American girls falls pregnant before the age of 20

So are all these girls..bad mothers too ? Think before you speak !

Look im not offended, i am a great mother, i try my best...i just really dont like generalizations...there always wrong..

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by marchalain

I don't know if that can be considered as a valid point...

Did Mr Schwartzenneger (or whatever the name is) got the Senator place in California?

Did Mr Bush get the presidence of the States?

One can certainly look at both of these individuals and claim them to be unintelligent, but to do so would be an error on part of the outside observer.

For one thing it took intelligence for these people to surround themselves with people who believe in them and were willing to work to see their vision of reality come true.

Remember, though they be pawns to a greater extent - they have their own independent will and work outside the worldview of those who support them and those they serve.

This is the true mark of intelligence, and don't forget this...

Originally Posted by marchalain

... If they do so after another "Lewinsky affair" from a republican president I would really stare at the girl taking that importance ...

Actually the Lewinsky mess surrounded Bill Clinton who was a Democrat, not a republican.

So with everything else in your post, one must ask: Of the two dominate political parties in America, who uses females the most as an ends to a means (whatever that means be and the ends)?

And if you took a critical look, the answer might surprise you...

Originally Posted by backe

Hell_bound, [y]our infatuation with this....woman is nothing short of astounding. So much so, that this is the only remark I will make about it.

I'm not infatuated with Palin, just that I see her far different from just a political toy, and if you read my responses to Emily you would realize this...

Originally Posted by backe

... As marchalain pointed out, intelligence has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with holding public office.

Again, as I always say, it's a matter of perspective...

Originally Posted by backe

... In fact, I would go so far as to say that I actually question the intelligence of individuals who aspire for political power.

Yes, and this shows that you are a good citizen of your country...

If only all were like you...

But the true test is if you question also those that fall within your vision of how you see the world and the ways of going about to solve the problems of your nation and the world...

Originally Posted by Har

If Obama wins,Hell-Bound will be the crazy man that killed kennedy may years ago.

Actually I support Obama, to a degree.

Traditionally I vote Democrat, but the truth is today there really isn't a difference between the two parties anymore.

Both are willing to sell out the American people for a fist full of dollars.

Obama supports the military industrial complex and if pushed hard enough will create war as much as McCain would.

Why people cannot see this, I don't know...

This is why I'll be writing in Ron Paul's name for President this year...

Originally Posted by Drowning Pool

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

Beaten why for
Can't take much more

Here we go...Here we go...Here we go

One - Nothing wrong with me
Two - Nothing wrong with me
Three - Nothing wrong with me
Four - Nothing wrong with me

One - Something's got to give
Two - Something's got to give
Three - Something's got to give
Now

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

Push me again
This is the end

Here we go...Here we go...Here we go

One - Nothing wrong with me
Two - Nothing wrong with me
Three - Nothing wrong with me
Four - Nothing wrong with me

One - Something's got to give
Two - Something's got to give
Three - Something's got to give
Now

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

Skin against skin blood and bone
You're all by yourself but you're not alone
You wanted in now you're here
Driven by hate consumed by fear

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

One - Nothing wrong with me
Two - Nothing wrong with me
Three - Nothing wrong with me
Four - Nothing wrong with me

One - Something's got to give
Two - Something's got to give
Three - Something's got to give
Now

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

The floor...The floor...The floor...The floor

[Ironfoot]

Originally Posted by Skatz1980

...i just really dont like generalizations...there always wrong..

Isnt this a generalization too?
May i remind you that generalizations exist because most of them are true/were true at some point in their creation?
Like ppl with glasses are spending a lot of time in front of an computer..
I wear glasses

[Angel_de_Combate]

No your just splitting hairs now...kinda sad really

[Ironfoot]

Care to explain how am i splitting hairs?