Balance Update, First real iteration on AMUN! - Page 8

KryHavoK · 07-24-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shwish

the changes all sound good to me. knights are finally getting their rightfully deserved due, but I'm a bit concerned about what this would mean for the marksman class seeing that there's gona be no improvement to them

From reading Chilko's opening post, I'm thinking/hoping that the Archer class is still on their to-do list and will be addressed before releasing the balance update.

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Originally Posted by chilko

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AND THERE IS MORE WORK TO BE DONE (LIKE WITH ARCHERS)

esp_tupac · 07-24-2010, 06:10 PM

the modification on cs was genious in this update!
what used to be "50% cs" on lvl 5 arcane devotion is now "100% cs".
if 50% cs in the current version and 100% cs in the new version have the exact SAME speed, which i strongly believe it is, then what's really changed is cs values on mages' gloves and staffs. That is, NGD cut cs values on armor by HALF!

what's happening is that 7% cs on glove and staff in the new version is now equvalent to 3.5% cs in our current version. That is, a maximum of 21% cs (from armor) + 50% cs (from arcane devotion) in current version get reduced to a max. of 10.5% cs (from armor) + 50% cs (from arcane devotion) in the new version. This is indeed the 60% cs CAP that ppl were talking about. NGD did this in a subtle way

As u can see, this modification effectively reduced the gap between uber players' cs and ordinary players' cs. Now it's only 10.5% cs between a player with max. cs and a player who does not have any cs armors at all!

On top of that, global cooldowns for mages have been increased in general. and "silence" duration has been reduced to 4 sec at lvl 1. ordinary players, mage in particular, now have a chance to fight back against uber mage players. mage pvp will no longer rely heavily on cs as much as it did in the current version.

The slow casting speed that ppl are experiencing on Amun is a combination of a 50% reduction in cs on armors and a 50% increase (from 1sec to 1.5sec in general) in global cooldown and is NOT a result of the "arcane devotion" nerf that NGD claimed to have done!

PS: this is just my observation on Amun and may not be correct. plz do not critisize me if u think differently.

_Enio_ · 07-24-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

With improvements to armour all around I will be interested to see how med/fast marks/hunter/knight weapons manage, most were already borderline ineffective vs buffed targets.

Exactly what i was wondering. Fixed armours could mean that we finally get the formula to calculate the mitigation per ap for different damage type resistances?

I want to add that buffed damage reduction of armor (non-scaling) greatly reduces the smaller hits (archers &knights, dots) and should be checked upon balancing.

_Nel_ · 07-24-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by esptupac

the modification on cs was genious in this update! ...

Check this:
> http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ad.php?t=62826

Kyrottimus · 07-24-2010, 06:55 PM

In my opinion GH should still affect the caster.

Either that or if it's going to stay this way, self heal and self regen should have slightly lower cd's and/or mana costs to compensate for it.

Remember: Conjus already have it hard as it is to support others. Let's not give them any less of a reason to do so.

e30G · 07-24-2010, 07:00 PM

I like the change of GH from an Aura to an area. The duration has been raised from 30secs to 60 secs now. As far as it not affecting the caster, I will reserve my judgement until I test it out on a fight. Some people say it's a bug so I will wait and see. If it won't affect the caster. then at least raise the hp/tick of regenerate self and allow prebuffing even without damage.

BigManOnCampus · 07-24-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by e30ernest

... The duration has been raised from 30secs to 60 secs now. ...

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Originally Posted by chilko

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Conjurer:

Major healing: This power has been changed from Aura to an Area, Now it works as a constant healing to the allies in the area when casted.
Duration of the power has been set at 30 seg.
Power level progression fom 1 to 5 is: 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 pts.

^^^^^^^^^^

e30G · 07-24-2010, 07:15 PM

It was 60secs on Amun.

doppelapfel · 07-24-2010, 07:17 PM

And it was 30 before so i think they thought about it again after those many complaints.

UmarilsStillHere · 07-24-2010, 07:19 PM

Amuns current version of GH:

e30ernest did clearly say

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raised from 30secs to 60 secs

safe to say he knew it was 30 seconds before and NGD have raised it since then

07-24-2010, 06:10 PM	#72
esp_tupac Initiate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: country that invents hockey Posts: 223	the modification on cs was genious in this update! what used to be "50% cs" on lvl 5 arcane devotion is now "100% cs". if 50% cs in the current version and 100% cs in the new version have the exact SAME speed, which i strongly believe it is, then what's really changed is cs values on mages' gloves and staffs. That is, NGD cut cs values on armor by HALF! what's happening is that 7% cs on glove and staff in the new version is now equvalent to 3.5% cs in our current version. That is, a maximum of 21% cs (from armor) + 50% cs (from arcane devotion) in current version get reduced to a max. of 10.5% cs (from armor) + 50% cs (from arcane devotion) in the new version. This is indeed the 60% cs CAP that ppl were talking about. NGD did this in a subtle way As u can see, this modification effectively reduced the gap between uber players' cs and ordinary players' cs. Now it's only 10.5% cs between a player with max. cs and a player who does not have any cs armors at all! On top of that, global cooldowns for mages have been increased in general. and "silence" duration has been reduced to 4 sec at lvl 1. ordinary players, mage in particular, now have a chance to fight back against uber mage players. mage pvp will no longer rely heavily on cs as much as it did in the current version. The slow casting speed that ppl are experiencing on Amun is a combination of a 50% reduction in cs on armors and a 50% increase (from 1sec to 1.5sec in general) in global cooldown and is NOT a result of the "arcane devotion" nerf that NGD claimed to have done! PS: this is just my observation on Amun and may not be correct. plz do not critisize me if u think differently. Last edited by esptupac; 07-24-2010 at 06:34 PM.

07-24-2010, 06:55 PM	#75
Kyrottimus Baron Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana, U.S.A. Posts: 690	In my opinion GH should still affect the caster. Either that or if it's going to stay this way, self heal and self regen should have slightly lower cd's and/or mana costs to compensate for it. Remember: Conjus already have it hard as it is to support others. Let's not give them any less of a reason to do so. __________________ Μολὼν λαβέ Kyrottimus: 60 - Barbarian (WM) RIP \|\| Rykor: 60 - Knight (WM) RIP Vanosen Sagesight: 60 - Marksman (WM) RIP \|\| Orykus: 60 - Hunter RIP

07-24-2010, 07:00 PM	#76
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	I like the change of GH from an Aura to an area. The duration has been raised from 30secs to 60 secs now. As far as it not affecting the caster, I will reserve my judgement until I test it out on a fight. Some people say it's a bug so I will wait and see. If it won't affect the caster. then at least raise the hp/tick of regenerate self and allow prebuffing even without damage. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

07-24-2010, 07:15 PM	#78
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	It was 60secs on Amun. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

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07-24-2010, 07:17 PM	#79
doppelapfel Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 715	And it was 30 before so i think they thought about it again after those many complaints.