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09-11-2009, 07:48 PM
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There isn't much time left..
Are you ready to welcome in the new age, where prosperity is only a memory?
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The new reality will replace illusions for truth... And in so doing you will come to believe... That weakness is strength... That enslavement is freedom... And that war is good! Soon you will see that I was right... The time is coming children... The time is so, oh, near! So... very... near... I encourage you to watch the video, and leave a post as to what you thought about it...
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09-11-2009, 08:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Er its Marilyn Manson and as for prosperity im skint now and ill prolly be skint for a few more years yet. There are no fucking jobs..thats why i had no choice but to go back to college..when hopefully in a years time ill be back looking for a job again but hopefully my newly gained 3 A levels will grab employers attention. <fingers crossed> sorry for the rant btw
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09-11-2009, 08:26 PM
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Baron
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I believe I will rot into millions of little pieces and fertile the earth my body will be buried in. FIN
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09-11-2009, 08:33 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: England
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If you say so.
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09-13-2009, 07:13 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: R'lyeh, bajo el lago del Parque de Mendoza.
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Hard one... I replied to some thread like this, but in the spanish forum. I don't remember very well my exact opinion, but the last lines, reminded me a lot the Ingsoc slogans.
War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength. Everyday -sadly- I found a new manifestation of this in real life.
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LoneSword - El Peor Clan de RegnuM "El enemigo anónimo es un halago. No sólo le importa lo suficiente para odiarlo a uno, sino que por algún motivo no puede dar su nombre. Es un motivo de alegría, camarada." (MalditoLobo)
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09-13-2009, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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We'll force you to be nice to each other. Kill you, before you kill each other. Violent pacification! |
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09-18-2009, 02:06 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
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possibly the stupidest 4 minutes I've ever wasted.
(not the music) the video made no sense, what was the message ? I dont see how JFK,King ,and Ali equate to Orwell or how any of that is related to the the smirking fool, or President Obama and what the hell did Bobby Seals movement have to do with any of it? Jamming together that many arcane references to some industrial noise doesn't make it deep,profound or prophetic. methinks it was compiled more for shock value than anything; which makes sense considering the artist (I use the term loosely). I'd have rather been rickrolled.
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09-18-2009, 03:48 AM
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Often as an American we tend to believe in the idea that everyone is created equal and has the same chance as anyone, regardless of sex or race, to the American dream. So when you see those images of protest it shows the opposite of what we are told as citizens. In that sense our authority is no different then Lenin or Stalin, both who used Marxist communism to make people side with their ideology - such as killing the bourgeois (lenin) and then eventually the proletariat (stalin), all in the name of creating change. Also another image of change is the church, so the pope too gets thrown in. How it relates to Obama is where you see the African-American children doing a march, chant in the classroom. The teacher that inspired those children to engage in that type of activity was seen as indoctrinating them into an a false ideology. It was actually funny how much of a stir it made during Obama's campaign for presidency. When I see those images I always connect them to these lines: Quote:
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Both images then, in the end, are about the celebration of violence and how they connect also to religious beliefs, of not just Islam but also Christianity, as well as Judaism... Which in the end connects to the song from this line: Quote:
The truth is that all these images point to the false consciousness paradox (the whole idea of 1984) that we live in that is brought out, very well in my opinion, from this video and song. And the false consciousness paradox is what we have been indoctrinated to believe that everything we were taught is real and good... That you should trust your authority figures because they always will hold your interests above their own; that science can solve every problem that man faces even though the industrialization of the products of science create pollution; that capitalism is the best economic system ever made even though its an inherent system of inequity (not to mention its need for war) ; and that there is a God, a God that needs your submission, just like those in authority, or he will punish you. Yet the only people in that whole video who were real and stood up to expose the lies that citizens are handed were killed... Those people of course were MLK and JFK (proving that Stalin and Lenin tactics, respectively, exist within America)... May they both rest in peace... Oh and did you notice where you see large crowds screaming, the scene out of 1984 and the protests images? All that anger poured out, well that is what happens when people who have been lied to finally come to know the truth... And that children is the future to come, but such protests, and even war, will only ensure the strangle hold the power-elite have on the citizens of the world. Quote:
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09-18-2009, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
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Fair points , somewhat erroneously applied but I realize you've been fed the
revisionist versions of those events , I'm kind of old and actually saw many and participated in several; so I have a different perspective. I'll unwind this a bit out of order but since the video distorted most of it I'm sure that wont bother. MLK, yep he was killed for his belief that all people should be equal, I have no idea how that follows into Bobby Seal and the Black Panthers ,the former was a peaceful resistance , the later an armed militant movement. Unless the producder is trying to show contrast it demeans Kings message. (an aside, Bobby Kennedy killed over this injustice not Jack) I'd have presented something showing the real hate that inspired those men to such extremes. Ali was a professional athlete, he so abhorred violence that he refused to go to Viet Nam to fight.... and went to jail for it . (and never complained or made excuses, he did what he believed and lived by it; admirable no matter what your sentiment on the war itself.) now I'm no political science expert but referencing Marx ,Lenin and Stalin seems like a bit of overkill , none of the elected leadership in this country have ever called for class revolution on those scales, the worst case that could be made would be against Ronald Reagan and his drive to subvert by deceit to a facist nationalism. Now dont get me wrong Hellbound ,I think its great that you are using your head for someting besides a hair farm( my pop used to say that  ) .My point is that the video seems slapped together incoherently and the parts that do make any sense were clipped out of context only to be spun by an angry film maker with an agenda , if he believed what he preached he would have used images of the holocaust museum shooter instead of the sick kid at VT for example. You make good points that people shouldnt believe everything they see or hear, this video is a good example of why,its full; start to finish of misinformation. anyhow, +1 to you, but still a thumbs down for the video itself .
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09-18-2009, 10:35 AM
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Baron
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Polish Side of RA
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Why Hell Bound you were right! the end IS near! Two weeks till the end of my holidays
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