Unstoppable Madness

Huntrare · 11-15-2011, 04:32 PM

Hi,
First of all this is not a nerf topic, so I dont want ppl to jump on it.
But I do want to know is this:
Im a marks lvl 52 and a barb is running after me and i cast Burst of Wind on him, but ofc it didnt work since he had UM. But on screen it says,"Success" while in reality it is resisted.
So my question is:Why in the combat log doesnt show that it had been resisted??? I dont think this happens to me only.

HidraA · 11-15-2011, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valkien

Hi,
First of all this is not a nerf topic, so I dont want ppl to jump on it.
But I do want to know is this:
Im a marks lvl 52 and a barb is running after me and i cast Burst of Wind on him, but ofc it didnt work since he had UM. But on screen it says,"Success" while in reality it is resisted.
So my question is:Why in the combat log doesnt show that it had been resisted??? I dont think this happens to me only.

It is a old feature,show succes but for dmg only,dizzy does not affects barb with UM.
And BoW it is dmg +dizzy spell.
A resist means ,he resist even at dmg not only at dizzy effects.

_Emin_ · 11-15-2011, 05:12 PM

BoW has no dmg

It's the same with knocks, wondering if they will ever do something about it.

Kyrottimus · 11-15-2011, 05:16 PM

It works the same way as Mindblank, Defensive Support and Warmaster Beacons. "Success" means it made it through the spell-resist layer but if the effect didn't stick it means it did not make it through the "resist effect" layer.

Resisting a spell, and resisting a spell's effects are two different things.

HidraA · 11-15-2011, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Emin_

BoW has no dmg

It's the same with knocks, wondering if they will ever do something about it.

Ma bad,forgot about dmg remove.So spell was not adjusted...

Tigerious · 11-15-2011, 06:31 PM

The topic isn't really good. This thing isn't related only on Unstoppable Madness.
You can see things like this when you cast dizzy/imobilize/knock spells on a conjurer who use and have enabled Mind Blank.

In my opinion, devels made a programing layer that need a complete rewriting because like you said theses spells shoul be resisted in combat log like others normal resist, this is what saying the spells description :P There is resists and .... resists :P Two kind of resistance :]

NotScias · 11-15-2011, 06:32 PM

When a spell is shown as "resisted" in the log, it means it didn't pass the simple random spell resist layer. Then there's no clue if the associated CCs of the spell do pass the CC resistance layers from specific buffs.

So to summarize, the spell itself wasn't resisted, but its CC got resisted by UM, which isn't shown in the log at the moment.

Carn · 11-15-2011, 06:48 PM

It's actually pretty simple:

The spell itself was succesfull, but because of unstoppable madness it had no effect on the barbarian.

So it didn't really get resisted.

Huntrare · 11-15-2011, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excess

It's actually pretty simple:

The spell itself was succesfull, but because of unstoppable madness it had no effect on the barbarian.

So it didn't really get resisted.

But...but.....but...idk im speechless lol.
But why..i mean why doesnt shows you that your still in kind of trouble,i mean....you left me without words XD

Raindance · 11-15-2011, 08:03 PM

I think he means that there should be a feature that tells you whether or not your whatever spell really did succeed or not on targets with UM, and I'll add not only UM, but mind blank, WM beacons etc...

For example if it didn't go through to the target because of the effects of a given spell it should say failure instead of success, even though it hit. But dunno if it would really be necessary.

11-15-2011, 04:32 PM	#1
Huntrare Initiate Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 162	Unstoppable Madness Hi, First of all this is not a nerf topic, so I dont want ppl to jump on it. But I do want to know is this: Im a marks lvl 52 and a barb is running after me and i cast Burst of Wind on him, but ofc it didnt work since he had UM. But on screen it says,"Success" while in reality it is resisted. So my question is:Why in the combat log doesnt show that it had been resisted??? I dont think this happens to me only.

11-15-2011, 05:16 PM	#4
Kyrottimus Baron Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana, U.S.A. Posts: 690	It works the same way as Mindblank, Defensive Support and Warmaster Beacons. "Success" means it made it through the spell-resist layer but if the effect didn't stick it means it did not make it through the "resist effect" layer. Resisting a spell, and resisting a spell's effects are two different things. __________________ Μολὼν λαβέ Kyrottimus: 60 - Barbarian (WM) RIP \|\| Rykor: 60 - Knight (WM) RIP Vanosen Sagesight: 60 - Marksman (WM) RIP \|\| Orykus: 60 - Hunter RIP

11-15-2011, 06:32 PM	#7
NotScias Baron Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: /dev/null Posts: 766	When a spell is shown as "resisted" in the log, it means it didn't pass the simple random spell resist layer. Then there's no clue if the associated CCs of the spell do pass the CC resistance layers from specific buffs. So to summarize, the spell itself wasn't resisted, but its CC got resisted by UM, which isn't shown in the log at the moment. __________________ 天 The other realm awaits... Now playing much better games

11-15-2011, 06:48 PM	#8
Carn Initiate Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 195	It's actually pretty simple: The spell itself was succesfull, but because of unstoppable madness it had no effect on the barbarian. So it didn't really get resisted. __________________ Carnage Amongst Others Kinda retired

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11-15-2011, 05:12 PM	#3
_Emin_ Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 172	BoW has no dmg It's the same with knocks, wondering if they will ever do something about it.

11-15-2011, 06:31 PM	#6
Tigerious Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: France Posts: 496	The topic isn't really good. This thing isn't related only on Unstoppable Madness. You can see things like this when you cast dizzy/imobilize/knock spells on a conjurer who use and have enabled Mind Blank. In my opinion, devels made a programing layer that need a complete rewriting because like you said theses spells shoul be resisted in combat log like others normal resist, this is what saying the spells description :P There is resists and .... resists :P Two kind of resistance :]

11-15-2011, 08:03 PM	#10
Raindance Initiate Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 234	I think he means that there should be a feature that tells you whether or not your whatever spell really did succeed or not on targets with UM, and I'll add not only UM, but mind blank, WM beacons etc... For example if it didn't go through to the target because of the effects of a given spell it should say failure instead of success, even though it hit. But dunno if it would really be necessary.