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Old 08-02-2009, 03:52 PM   #1
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Default The useless spell list

Well, this is a list of all the spells that are in my opinion 'useless/not used', to be classed as 'useless' I mean;

I never see them in war,
I never see them in grind,
I only very rarely see them at boss events,
They are rarely used over level 1

Since im not perfect I may miss some out, or put some in that you think are usefull, if so post what you think should be added/removed and why, For some spells I comment on their uselessness, here I go...

Warriors

Slash

Athletic: Dex on a warrior, why?
Crash
Fatal Strike: Good on paper but I never see it, I blame mana cost

Blunt

Ribs Breaker
Execution: Broken
Jaw Breaker: I blame mana cost/cast time

Peirce

Impale
Brain Piercing
Multi-Thrust
Lightning Strike: Worst of the areas, I never see this anymore

Tactics

Martial Defence
Back Slam
Martial Reflexes: Broken

Warcries

Colossus: I never see this in use
Intimidaing Threat
Onslaught: Bad Mana -> Effect ratio, shame that the 'definining' spell all barbs used to have is now only used on 5 by 3 or 4 players on the whole server

2 Handed Mastery

Rend
Destabilize
Fulmination
Rage of the Earth

Vanguard

Rigorous Preperation
Awareness
Challenge
Provoking Blow
Arcane Constitution

Sheilds

Ethereal Mantle: I only see this when knights are messing around "bubble dance "
Run Over
Protector: Often only used on level 1 for running away, better uses for this skill have been suggested

Archers

Short Bows

Meditation
Adaptability

Long Bows

Ofuscate
Projectile Rain

Tricks

Finesse

Evasion

Cat Reflexes: Does it work?
Spell Elude

Scouting

Track Monster
Track Ally
Camouflage Corpse

Pets

...

Aiming Mastery

Finger Crush
Cyclops Curse
Seeking Strike

Arrow Mastery

Needle Blast
Fire Rain

Mages

Mental

Sultars Devouring Mass

Mana Control

Metabolic Control: Conc is a hit and miss stat, a miss imo

Staff Mastery

Protection Dome

Enchantments

Curse
Blindness
Clumsiness

Summoning

Summon Golem: Not as good as the ranged summons before it

Sourcery

Shifting Silhouette
Friendly Shielding

Life

...

Necromancy

Infuriate

Arcania

Petrify Hands
Laziness
Fragility
Wind Wall

Elements

Ice Blast
Frozen Storm
Elemental Exposure

Ok all done, If you think I missed something or put something In that you think is usefull if you can give a good reason I will add/remove it.

I get that NGD need to change 'used' spells as well but it would be nice to see these spells made usefull so people acctualy use them, creating more variety, and making these spells more than pretty icons in the spell book that never get clicked.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:14 PM   #2
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Finally someone made a list...
I'll speak for the conjurer/mage spells only

Splinter wall is good in fort wars, individual damage isn't good but in the middle of an enemy army the overall damage isn't as bad as you think.

Metabolic control I'm not sure of, does concentration increase spell focus? If so, it's good, but usually used by sm mages.

Mirage is very good imo, I use it alot in fort wars. With mirage + mind blank both lvl 5 a conj gets +90% resist knocks. Combined with mass dispel and you can save your army from those sultar chains.

Friendly shielding is ok, but the cd>duration makes it not worth it.

All the other conj/mage spells I agree with. +1 for making this list.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:16 PM   #3
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I have seen (and myself used) colossus on fort doors. I use it on level 1 and suspect others probably don't level it up but use it on 1 as well.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:24 PM   #4
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Wtf?

I use Ribs Breaker, Crushing and Rage of the earth (thanks Ara ) all the time.
Before I changed my setup I also used Defensive Stance on lvl 4.

Jaw Breaker isn't a too uncommon sight on RA either, neither is Brain Piercing.
Most knights on RA use Shield Wall or Heroic if using any aura at all.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:28 PM   #5
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I used to see Ribs often before It was nerfed, nearly never now though, Crushing I have used on level one a few times when I used blunt but I nearly never see it, Ive seen Rage of the Earth on level 5 only once, its expected some people will use these spells and since you play on a more populated server its only natural that you will see more of these around, I dont see them used often enough to be mainstream usefull though :P

Ill pay more attention to Knight auras to see if sheild wall crops up more, but I tend not to see it.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:29 PM   #6
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infuriate is useful?

splinter wall is useful if you can figure out how it's pretty evil I can't see why wind wall and laziness sucks either? Laziness on 5 is 50% attack damage for 20 seconds
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:31 PM   #7
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infuriate is useful?

splinter wall is useful if you can figure out how it's pretty evil I can't see why wind wall and laziness sucks either? Laziness on 5 is 50% attack damage for 20 seconds
Wind wall wasnt used by many even before the cover was removed, Ive seen it only twice since that update,

Laziness sure, its good on level 5, but I never see it used
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Colossus: I never see this in use
Very very often used at fort doors... I end up healing 20% of a lot of barbs health

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Ethereal Mantle
Not often but I do see it cast, I even know one knight who lvl's this up.

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Shield Wall: Looks good now it resists all physical dmg, still never see it
I see this one all the time.

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Protection Dome
Very hard to use at the right time due to the speed reduction, but I use this on lvl 4 at fort doors if there are people inside, and I see a few others doing the same also.

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Shifting Silhouette
Friendly Shielding
Mirage
Sad thing is these are good spells, and I run out of points well before any of these could get them, I do cast them on lvl 1 however. Especially Friendly Shielding on a knight.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:01 PM   #9
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I used to see Ribs often before It was nerfed, nearly never now though, Crushing I have used on level one a few times when I used blunt but I nearly never see it, Ive seen Rage of the Earth on level 5 only once, its expected some people will use these spells and since you play on a more populated server its only natural that you will see more of these around, I dont see them used often enough to be mainstream usefull though :P

Ill pay more attention to Knight auras to see if sheild wall crops up more, but I tend not to see it.
Crushing is the new replacement for Ribs Breaker since it's instant.
100% damage and -15 const, for 120 mana.

Use this together with TfB and normal hits and you get the same effect as the old Ribs Breaker.
In theory, a crushing lvl 1 will cause around 1k damage on a warrior if you manage to kill him before the duration runs out.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:08 PM   #10
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Comments in blue, i'll only comment skills Knights use.

[QUOTE=Umaril;769589]
Warriors

Slash

Athletic: Dex on a warrior, why? Some slashing users evade a lot, i guess they put points in this one.
Blunt

Ribs Breaker Often used on RA
Crushing Isn't that rare, seems like it's getting more popular every week.
Jaw Breaker I see it sometimes but it would be way better without the high mana cost.

Tactics

Defensive Stance: - Speed ruins it A must have when breaking/defending fort doors.

Sheilds
Shield Wall: Looks good now it resists all physical dmg, still never see it Together with Heroic Presence the most common Knight aura on RA
Run Over I use it at lvl 5 and it works, though you only see good results from it with 100+ constitution (tested). The KD resist from const seems to be broken but it affects this skill.

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