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Old 01-25-2010, 09:49 PM   #1
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Default UM = nerfred by NGD?

Duno if ppl have mine troble..but not work for me anymore.
UM is complet ditroyed ....and barbs became full usless in any situation.
Usualy i am knoked or imobilize 100% in UM 5.
The bad news is ..onece at 3-4 UM 5 i am knoked/imoblized 3-4 times in same UM.
I am not sure anymore what one barb is in this game...for me is only one rps provider.
Someone told about SC 2k dmg..yes if is not knocked in UM or beatle swarmed.
Archers can make barbs dmg,locks can doit also ,new ..duno if are bugs but hunters with 700-800 dmg ensharing ..omg..so they can doo huge dmg..
So duno anymore for what is good one barb.
In my opinion NGD must change UM stats to resists 10%..in um 2-3 u are knoked anyway 10000% so stats 70% is pointless.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:22 PM   #2
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Duno if ppl have mine troble..but not work for me anymore.
UM is complet ditroyed ....and barbs became full usless in any situation.
Usualy i am knoked or imobilize 100% in UM 5.
The bad news is ..onece at 3-4 UM 5 i am knoked/imoblized 3-4 times in same UM.
I am not sure anymore what one barb is in this game...for me is only one rps provider.
Someone told about SC 2k dmg..yes if is not knocked in UM or beatle swarmed.
Archers can make barbs dmg,locks can doit also ,new ..duno if are bugs but hunters with 700-800 dmg ensharing ..omg..so they can doo huge dmg..
So duno anymore for what is good one barb.
In my opinion NGD must change UM stats to resists 10%..in um 2-3 u are knoked anyway 10000% so stats 70% is pointless.
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2) Which archers and warlocks do you know that can do 2k damage in one hit?
3) 700-800 damage ensnaring arrows are due to very specific setups combined with ridiculously rare gear. (i.e. captain nintendo - full tenax armor, tenax amulet, 2 RoL, Magnanite bow/Daen Rha bow)
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:28 AM   #3
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3) 700-800 damage ensnaring arrows are due to very specific setups combined with ridiculously rare gear. (i.e. captain nintendo - full tenax armor, tenax amulet, 2 RoL, Magnanite bow/Daen Rha bow)
lol dude i dont have full tenax armour anymore ffs!
anyway i dont get why people complain about stuff and continue to use it. IMO barbs are the best class in the game.Highest damage and great defence. If UM 5 isnt working for you drop it to 1,put the points somewhere else
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:57 AM   #4
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Duno if ppl have mine troble..but not work for me anymore.
UM is complet ditroyed ....and barbs became full usless in any situation.
Usualy i am knoked or imobilize 100% in UM 5.
The bad news is ..onece at 3-4 UM 5 i am knoked/imoblized 3-4 times in same UM.
I am not sure anymore what one barb is in this game...for me is only one rps provider.
Someone told about SC 2k dmg..yes if is not knocked in UM or beatle swarmed.
Archers can make barbs dmg,locks can doit also ,new ..duno if are bugs but hunters with 700-800 dmg ensharing ..omg..so they can doo huge dmg..
So duno anymore for what is good one barb.
In my opinion NGD must change UM stats to resists 10%..in um 2-3 u are knoked anyway 10000% so stats 70% is pointless.
The same problem is with SotW, sometimes you resist as you supposed to do but sometimes all spells just go thru the SotW and you do not resist anything :/

The thing about gear and its power is a different story ^^"
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Old 01-26-2010, 03:08 PM   #5
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Duno if ppl have mine troble..but not work for me anymore.
UM is complet ditroyed ....and barbs became full usless in any situation.
Usualy i am knoked or imobilize 100% in UM 5.
The bad news is ..onece at 3-4 UM 5 i am knoked/imoblized 3-4 times in same UM.
I am not sure anymore what one barb is in this game...for me is only one rps provider.
well this post is a bit tough to understand so please correct me if i read this wrong. i use UM 1 and it helps some of the time but not 70%. its really frustrating when i get knocked immediatly after i cast it.

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Someone told about SC 2k dmg..yes if is not knocked in UM or beatle swarmed.
im not quite sure what you are getting at with this. but what im thinking is that you are wondering if it is possible to hit 2K with SC. im not all that sure about SC but i have hit over 2000 dmg with ripost before (last weekend actually). it was a very rare circumstance, i had agile movements (5), berzerk (5), thirst for blood (4), spearpassive (5), blunt passive (1), dmg passive (5), all cast. i was on the last hit of thirst for blood when i someone casted onslaught (5) on me. it was one of those very rare situations that i was just in the right place at the right time with the right buffs.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:25 PM   #6
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im not quite sure what you are getting at with this. but what im thinking is that you are wondering if it is possible to hit 2K with SC. im not all that sure about SC but i have hit over 2000 dmg with ripost before (last weekend actually). it was a very rare circumstance, i had agile movements (5), berzerk (5), thirst for blood (4), spearpassive (5), blunt passive (1), dmg passive (5), all cast. i was on the last hit of thirst for blood when i someone casted onslaught (5) on me. it was one of those very rare situations that i was just in the right place at the right time with the right buffs.
That actually seems a bit low for a fully buffed ripost, with ons 5. Maybe I'm wrong though, I haven't used a spear much. I know on a lvl 43 barb I can hit 1800 damage south crosses, with store bought gear and only my own buffs... so I think it's safe to say a 2k SC from a lvl 50 barb is more than reasonable.
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That actually seems a bit low for a fully buffed ripost, with ons 5. Maybe I'm wrong though, I haven't used a spear much. I know on a lvl 43 barb I can hit 1800 damage south crosses, with store bought gear and only my own buffs... so I think it's safe to say a 2k SC from a lvl 50 barb is more than reasonable.
im not completely sure it was ons (5) but i just assumed because i usually dont hit THAT high. i havent used TFB all that much until very recently so there might not have been an ons at all. i didnt really stop to check it out since i was in the middle of an angry goatzerg

but i agree, a 2K SC is reasonable
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im not completely sure it was ons (5) but i just assumed because i usually dont hit THAT high. i havent used TFB all that much until very recently so there might not have been an ons at all. i didnt really stop to check it out since i was in the middle of an angry goatzerg

but i agree, a 2K SC is reasonable
Yes i think 2k is reasonable, but i havent seen it.
TFB have no effect on any spell, it only for normals and critical hits.


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That actually seems a bit low for a fully buffed ripost, with ons 5. Maybe I'm wrong though, I haven't used a spear much. I know on a lvl 43 barb I can hit 1800 damage south crosses, with store bought gear and only my own buffs... so I think it's safe to say a 2k SC from a lvl 50 barb is more than reasonable.
I think its a wrong assumption that lvl 50 barbs hit higher than lvl 43 barb, lvl 50s usually have slow weapon while lvl 40+ use a very slow weapon with similar base damage.

Surely some will use a lvl 43 very slow weapon at lvl 50 to max out their SCs but its hardly common.
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Yes i think 2k is reasonable, but i havent seen it.
TFB have no effect on any spell, it only for normals and critical hits.
the description of the spell is: +40 cumulative dmg for each successful hit.

it does not specify whether it effects spells like ripost. so it could be either way. but it does help a TON when doorwhacking.
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:10 PM   #10
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Duno if ppl have mine troble..but not work for me anymore.
UM is complet ditroyed ....and barbs became full usless in any situation.
Usualy i am knoked or imobilize 100% in UM 5.
The bad news is ..onece at 3-4 UM 5 i am knoked/imoblized 3-4 times in same UM.
I am not sure anymore what one barb is in this game...for me is only one rps provider.
Someone told about SC 2k dmg..yes if is not knocked in UM or beatle swarmed.
Archers can make barbs dmg,locks can doit also ,new ..duno if are bugs but hunters with 700-800 dmg ensharing ..omg..so they can doo huge dmg..
So duno anymore for what is good one barb.
In my opinion NGD must change UM stats to resists 10%..in um 2-3 u are knoked anyway 10000% so stats 70% is pointless.
Quick Mathematics basics :
90% != 100%
Most of the barbarians expect that UM will abolutely protect them against all CCs, they should not.
Maybe you should use your brain more before rushing like a Terminator against a zerg.
Archers and locks can't deal the same damage than a barb.
700-800 ensnaring only happens if the archers got external buffs like onsl.
Barbs are still far away the best damage dealers in the game, if UM was 100%, they would be OP (against archers at least).
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