Disable South Cross

[bigjim]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

I hope you mean cooldown time.

The old TFB was 25s cooldown and it did less damage than SC, so IMO 20 - 30.

Yea, but it was in the days before weapon buffs.

[StrikerX]

Originally Posted by SmUrV

completely agree on the casting time

maybe 10 - 20 seconds

6 Seconds is fine.. any more than that and it would totally ruin pve using southcross.. we already don't have enough good dmg skills that are usefull in pve.. this is basically the only one for slashing and riposte for spears.

[bigjim]

Originally Posted by StrikerX

6 Seconds is fine.. any more than that and it would totally ruin pve using southcross.. we already don't have enough good dmg skills that are usefull in pve.. this is basically the only one for slashing and riposte for spears.

I guess if you consider one hitting a mob after a certain level useful for leveling than so be it. You complain about leveling a barb; I would love to see some here level a knight. Talk about painstaking.

[Comp]

Originally Posted by bigjim

I guess if you consider one hitting a mob after a certain level useful for leveling than so be it. You complain about leveling a barb; I would love to see some here level a knight. Talk about painstaking.

It used to be easy...I remember byteme would lvl just using auras

Bastage was always stealing my XP

[bigjim]

Originally Posted by Solarus

It used to be easy...I remember byteme would lvl just using auras

Bastage was always stealing my XP

Now Comp we aren't talking about aura leveling here now.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by StrikerX

6 Seconds is fine.. any more than that and it would totally ruin pve using southcross.. we already don't have enough good dmg skills that are usefull in pve.. this is basically the only one for slashing and riposte for spears.

For my barb (who lvls faster than my hunter), Ripost + Normal hit is more efficient for lvling.

-Lower mana usage.
-2 hit kills anyway.
-At this lvl, I can't get the 2h Warlord axe, so since spears have range, I get hit less than with swords.

Besides, we were talking about PvP.

[SmUrV]

Originally Posted by bigjim

I guess if you consider one hitting a mob after a certain level useful for leveling than so be it. You complain about leveling a barb; I would love to see some here level a knight. Talk about painstaking.

No joke on the knight


*respect knuckles*

[StrikerX]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

Besides, we were talking about PvP.

Yes but what affects pvp will have a big impact on all the new people in pve trying to get to lvl 50 to pvp.

[ncvr]

Ok, it seems you didn't get what I said before, so I'll put it this way.

Neither barbs nor knights need SC to level.

Furthermore, you don't need it to be 6 seconds cooldown for lvling at all.

[Znurre]

Originally Posted by StrikerX

Yes but what affects pvp will have a big impact on all the new people in pve trying to get to lvl 50 to pvp.

Nerfing SC will affect PvP in a good way.
If you fail to see this, well that's your problem and it's no reason to not nerf the spell.

A barbarian who cannot kill a marksman in 1vs1 is not a balance issue - it's a matter of how that barbarian is playing.