WM update is only making it harder for underpopulated realms/servers...

[Southbound]

Originally Posted by _Nel_

If you want some wm coins, you should go to sleep earlier and so, wake up earlier to take part into the nightly raping contest.

Oh? Is this all we have to do? Then what stops the europeen Syrtis players from doing the exact same thing, and stop the Ignean rape???

Maybe they got jobs/school/*insert any type of activaty usually performed in daylight*
Guess what, so do Europeen Igneans. Or is that different?

[_Nel_]

@ Southbound

Unlike Orimae, what I will earn if I do it? wm coins? rp? xp? gears?

Orimae can earn wm coins, rp, xp and it's only an individual choice, that will not implicate anyone else, only her. She can do it or not, every day or not. There are invasions everyday with or without her.

On my side, I must gather everyday lots of people from day crew to prevent those nightly invasions.
I already tried to prevent those invasions alone, I saw I was not able to do it, so I made this video to show to our day crew what really happens every night, and maybe gather more forces. But you know, that's just a game, and people won't make any effort if there is nothing to earn. So, 1 or 2, maybe 3 players joined us, and only once since that's not worth the effort at all, too much time and stress for nothing.

[fluffy_muffin]

Originally Posted by Southbound

Oh? Is this all we have to do? Then what stops the europeen Syrtis players from doing the exact same thing, and stop the Ignean rape???

Maybe they got jobs/school/*insert any type of activaty usually performed in daylight*
Guess what, so do Europeen Igneans. Or is that different?

Some of us here are working from time to time :P
Like me for 8-11h per day. So my chance for invasion is not high at all ^^
I don't mind cause when i started all fun we had was nice war at fort and it looks like i am not gona level higher then 52 :P
So can we stop this slapping forum-game and play a bit in RO? ^^

[Southbound]

Originally Posted by fluffy_muffin

Some of us here are working from time to time :P
Like me for 8-11h per day. So my chance for invasion is not high at all ^^

This was exactly my point too fluffy_muffin
I play europeen time in Ignis. I spend most (<----note) of my waring time running in between Samal/Meni/Shaan.

What made me comment on _Nel_:s post was "how easy" he made it sound to Orimae:
"Hey, just stay up, no problem"

And if thats the case, why wouldnt the same go for europeen Syrtis?

[MalaTempora]

Originally Posted by Gabburtjuh

See, most of the time I agree with you artec,

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Although the first 2 points are most important, the last point is a very critical point for alsius, simply because this will not work for us, you can say whatever you want, but we simply can't force our realmmates to listen, we've had small very organized groups, but point is, look at alsius, the clans for example, we don't have huge clans with high lvl players, most of alsius clans are: players from thesame country, RL friends/family or very tight groups of friends, so you get alot of small, seperated islands in a realm, and every attempt of trying to connect those has failed so far.

And on the timezone imbalance, this can't really be helped I think, the only thing that NGD could do is make it harder to invade etc at such times.

This attract me, i don't play more in RO, but i've still a Teamspeak 3 server
active and some of my guildmate use it for coordinating purpose..

If you (alsius) wont be able to raise a teamspeak server and wanna try it
pm me and i'll create a private channel for you to help you in coordinating
defense/offense..

Consider this like a friendly act, nothing more (cause i dont play atm and
if i would play i'm on ignis side) afterall you all spare my fun when i play.

[Gabburtjuh]

There are mumbles for alsius clans/the whole realm, but as long as we can get max 8 ppl in there at prime time, and nobody ingame listens to these 8 that are coordinated, it doesn't work, and that was the point

[mr_scsi]

Originally Posted by Gabburtjuh

......every attempt of trying to connect those has failed so far.

I read this and it actually reminded me of ignis about a year ago. The realm was soooo badly fractured that nothing seemed to work. Get this, we even organized a realm wide 'meeting' to try and air differences and meet on common ground to repair the realm. What an epic fail that was.... But some good came of it and some rival clans began to set aside differences and try to help 'the good of the realm', and about a year later, it seems to be working well.

I'm not gonna say its all a big love fest, this is ignis after all, but we generally all get on better.
HOW?? The biggest impact I believe is the new players.... We made a concerted effort to HELP THEM LVL and get to the wz. That action kinda snowballed and spawned many new fairly strong clans that made it to the wz. I think from there it may have weeded out some of the more selfish older players because they didn't follow their orders any more, but fought for the realm.

Without giving away our secrets, I'll toss you this one bone and maybe it will help everyone think about how they play/treat other players.

Q) When is the last time you purposely went to the noob zone to help a noob?

A) For me, it was last night, I rode there to give some players gold. It does me little good and helps them with better gear and they remember me for it. I gave 100k gold/each to 3 lvl 5's. They may or may not ever make it to the wz, but hopefully they have some fun while they are here.

[_Seinvan]

I always try to help out anyone in the inner realm whenever I'm there (usually on my knight or hunter )

Btw, the last time I was in the public Alsius mumble, it was being used as a Forsaken World mumble.. so.. yeah.. I stopped going there

[nisse]

I'm frankly surprised to see so many people complain about Ignis having so many warmasters (from a teleport perspective at least). You should be celebrating. Sure at first it was a huge advantage, but now there are so many of the damn portals popping up that they split our forces up horribly.

Just yesterday I saw this happening:

We were trying to get shaan back, so first 10 people teleport there, get killed by being outnumbered instead of waiting for reinforcements, then the same thing happens again with the reinforcements, and then the horse riding reinforcements get killed since the teleporters had all died. Instead of just going as one big force that would have had a chance.

This one was my favorite: We had just taken sam back after a long and bloody fight, so people are out at the gate thinking of where to go next. 3 warmasters there, they open up one portal to Alsius, one to meni and one to god knows where. Before anyone had gone through the portals we get warning that syrtis is coming back and is grouping up for a new attack. But despite the cries of "stay and defend" all the portal junkies jump away and the few that remain to defend get killed in a fight we would have won otherwise and all our forts are taken again.

People are drawn to those damn portals like moths to fire and jump through without thinking. I have plenty of stories like this.

Ooo, how about the time when we are clearly more than 10, 2 warmasters at the spot, one makes a portal and the other warmaster jumps through with them instead of making one of his own. They get killed quick, then we die too.
Or when we were going to Agg, 10 teleport, rest ride, we riders get there just in time to see the teleporters get killed. Or when we were holding agg and some wm says that we have lost, makes a portal, 10 people go and the rest of us get easily zerged.

and on and on

It is quite funny though and I am not saying there are not plenty of positives too. But right now it is quite a mess until people have learned how to properly use them. This is definitely a player issue, people need to learn to ignore teleports, maybe some basic math lessons, wm's need to learn to communicate better etc. But right now I don't know if it is that big of an advantage to Ignis. So learn from our mistakes i guess

[Llayne]

I once opened a portal to meni from samal for no reason and watched 10 people jump through it. lols ensued.