Conjuror shortage

[Proteas]

Spud,

If u want to keep dying and not having a healer heal u then fine stop bitching about this subject

[Spud]

Originally Posted by xxbowjrxx

Spud,

If u want to keep dying and not having a healer heal u then fine stop bitching about this subject

Just so you know man, Spud be a pure conj.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Spud

Who is anyone to tell another player how to play, especially if that player never asked for your, so called, "advice"? In fact it's down right rude!

How the RO community has treated its fellow players, not just the warjure, is really sad.

So many here trying to carve out their own agendas on a small, but capable, development team. Don't think this goes unnoticed.

The truth is the mechanics of the game should be teaching the player, no matter the class, how to play there class (the timing of their skills, which skills are better in some situations, as well as the limitations of their skills, and what can be generally expected from their class) not the players.

Especially not those that sit above high demanding others to be cookie cut templates.

We already see how this mentality has effected RO and why it feels so hollow, but by all means keep passing on your "advice". Soon when the hardcores have left you will see the fruit of what your "advice" brings.

so the hardcores leave because of my advice? I'm a so called "hardcore" myself, giving advice doesn't mean they have to listen to it, only if they want to, they can give feedback on it and maybe I'm the one who will learn something.

oh and necrovaron, you can only save at the save altars on your realms wz side, I once tried doing it at the ignis wall save XD

[e30G]

I think that's what he meant AWD. He was referring to Alsirian saves because he is assuming the poster of the message he quoted was from Alsius.

[mann2411]

conjurers havent won anything if im in a hunt with a conjurer and he doesnt heal/mana/buff i simply a)run off on him b)screw the hunt
i recommend that everyone does the same to the conjurers that dont heal.
they dont heal we dont help

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by e30ernest

I think that's what he meant AWD. He was referring to Alsirian saves because he is assuming the poster of the message he quoted was from Alsius.

oh -.-', I don't know what realm he is from but I think it's ignis, I saw one post from him before offering to heal people who are levelling regardless of level which means he doesn't really care about exp XD

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

oh -.-', I don't know what realm he is from but I think it's ignis, I saw one post from him before offering to heal people who are levelling regardless of level which means he doesn't really care about exp XD

I was talking to the guy with the alsius avatar.

[Spud]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

oh -.-', I don't know what realm he is from but I think it's ignis, I saw one post from him before offering to heal people who are levelling regardless of level which means he doesn't really care about exp XD

AwD he was talking about your comment to Necrovaron, not me.

However, yes I am from Ignis, and that post was over 5 months ago, but in there I was asking anyone (or group of people) lvl 28+, when I was lvl 32, if they wanted a personal heal/mana/buff whore for either exp or pvp.

The motivation behind it was to three fold: (1) to help my realm-mates, (2) get exp, rp and (3) let my realm-mates know of a pure conj always willing to help.

Funny thing is though that after I posted that I got a lot of people asking for help.

And the behavior of those people that asked for my help, I thought, was funny because most of them offered to pay me for my time, in either items, gold or both. I can even remember when there was a group of three (a hunter, barb, and I believe knight) who asked me how long I would be willing to stay with them and after I replied, I believe I said two hours, they wanted give me items up front, because they started to initiate trading with me, and when I refused their trade offers they said they would not hunt with me unless they could pay me up front!

And the reason that this struck me as odd is because, for me, being able to gain exp from helping others was reward enough. Also knowing how hard was to keep people's health level max, keep up on buffs and keep mana levels up mand the time fly. I never got board beign a pure conj, that I can say.

Trust me the battle between the warjure and the rest of RO community has been a sad one, and I have witnessed it from a non-conj perspective (my first toon was a hunter) and as a conj.

But I really do believe that it's time to put the past behind us now and try to build a new tomorrow.

And the only way that can be done, I believe, is if the non-conj community started to accept the warjure and stop treating the warjure as the black sheep of their realm. And I state this only because, being a pure conj, I know how few pure conj's there are in this game.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

I was talking to the guy with the alsius avatar.

oh I'll be damned, I thought it was to spud, oh well.

@spud wow, it's a good idea to offer gold to the pure conjurers , but well, I think mages are already the richest in game, or the ones who are having the easiest times getting rich because their repair rate is pretty low.

I would have never thought of this because I forget about gold most of the time and are more interested in helping my teammates. Maybe I should'ave been a conjurer XD. I have a conjurer though, or a mage level 1 called your mom.

[meldarion]

Everything has been said a couple of times over, but one idea has not been mentioned.

As a team, you fight together. Hence your experience grows not only between you and the mob, but also between yourself and your teammates.

One thing that I believe could "solve" or bring conjurors back into team-playing is the expansion of experience/rp.

Lets explain that by an example. Say by yourself you kill a mob: 100xp. Currently that XP is shared out plus a small group bonus. I think that this group bonus should be increased for those who get less XP because of their defensive nature.

Same with RP - if you get 15 rp for killing a player, two people should get 10 RP each (for example!!!) if they kill that player together.

It makes sense to acknowledge that XP/RP doesn't come from hit-points ONLY. It ALSO comes from support/defensive spells/etc.

Currently the system is to reward the biggest hitters, but why not make it reward the people in the team that give the team a higher "safety rating" - meaning the team is safer because of a particular player.

I believe our problems are because of the technology (namely the game). I've found it impossible to level with other people due to me getting ~60xp about 4/10 times because I missed casting spells in time. Personally I can get 220-300xp EVERY time with a Zarkit.

Even if I got 100xp EVERY time in a team, I would be happy to be there. But the "Will I get xp this mob???? ..... ..... ...... Darn...." just gets to me and I feel like I am wasting my time.

I think that we need to look at the technology at the source of the problem, not the people. If they were given the opportunity to play a pure conjuror for rewards, I believe you would see more conjurors. People are not the issue here. They are just trying to get by in what is a sticky situation because of XP/RP nerfs.