Balance Update, First real iteration on AMUN!

[BigManOnCampus]

Originally Posted by Ulti19

Knights auras will greatly protect conj's if they skill for it now. I don't think they need some speed increase or anything. If knight stays back and casts deflecting barrier 5 which is 40% reduction of ranged damage and shield wall 5 which is 40 % protection against pierce, slash and blunt the uncamoed hunter will take forever to kill the conj while the knight can knock and kill pet until hunter runs away. And with star shield and shield wall now being an area buff, the knight can cast on the conjs and move to stop barbs, or help stop barbs charging. ...

I respect you Ulti, I'll respect you more if you're that awesome in all your knight stats and have enough mana to cast all those

[Kaschka]

Originally Posted by Kittypretty

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Why can we not heal allies with full health but can give mana to those with full mana? WHY can't you just fix that too..so we don't waste our mana (because we can't tell WHO needs mana, the party system is slow, and hasn't worked right since i begun playing, I have to scan the chat, for mana!! and then run over there, give him mana, then run to heal some one, worry about my own buffs, my position, my mana level etc etc etc. A simple "cannot cast because target all has full mana" would suffice.

i would love seeing that implemented, or a little mana bar under health bar

[Ulti19]

Originally Posted by BigManOnCampus

I respect you Ulti, I'll respect you more if you're that awesome in all your knight stats and have enough mana to cast all those

Surely there will be another knight capable of throwing star shield up ^^
Deflecting barrier5 and Shield wall5 will only cost around 850-900 mana, i'm not 100% sure I forget totals. That would leave me with 350-400 mana to use for fun Mainly knocking people to the ground so that barbs can kill them or using my ever favorite balestra^^ Also my reasoning is that this will be a group with a variety of classes dividing the responsibilites. But for sure I will be able to cast 2 of those, i'm already skilled for it just awaiting the changes to go live . (which might take awhile because they said they are preliminary)

I respect you too.

[HidraA]

Big bulshit atm...like i told before....nothing like mages nerfs but nothik realy happens on RO..NOTHING.
When NGD will be capable to doo anthoters shits like nerfs i will admit they are capable to do a game.....atm on my opinion just shit

[Syrtisa]

Knight is first line fighter... conju second or third... so in order to babysitting - knight need to stay with conju far from enemy...

I really don't believe that there will be 24h/day knight following me like a pet.

You will not hear this often but once of conjus tasks is to stay alive.... no one will do this job better then conju.... and once again conju defended by others is a myth (ofc i am grateful for ppl assistance) .

In fact other conjurer is best conju defender but since often we need do job solo... so ... if conjuer want to survive he needs take care by him self.... PLZ remember we are only rear guest to front line.

Syrtisa.

[Ulti19]

Originally Posted by londo79

Knight is first line fighter... conju second or third... so in order to babysitting - knight need to stay with conju far from enemy...


Syrtisa.

Shield wall and star shield can now be cast and the knight can leave and you will still have his/her protection This is a very nice change. I'm not saying knights will babysit conj's and that only other people can keep a conj alive, of course that is your work and skill. But we can certainly keep your resistances more buffed than before while doing other things

[bois]

I will post in due course but In effect what I will post is about the frustration that has been welling up in support conjurers for a long time, The lack of tools that a knight has to defend a conjurer or any other class for that fact and the possible re-arrangement of spells on the conjurer trees as well as a few new suggestion on the knight tree that would make GH more feasible as an area instead of an aura. Please, understand that I do NOT agree with GH in its present iteration.

Adittionally, we have absolutely no idea about the changes to come for marksmen and hunters so it is premature to talk about what should be changed on knights until we know where hunters stand in this update.
Patience. I just don't have the time to post extensively on the subject now.

Art

[NotScias]

There's another thing that I find wrong. That's about Splinter Wall.

The current splinter wall is an aura that does 100-150 pierce on very close enemies for 30 seconds,
The version on Amun is not an aura (area dot), that does 60-120 pierce for 10 seconds.

So, you divide its duration by 3 but you also reduce its damage, so really there's something I don't understand here because the current version is really far to be OP and is almost not used at all, because it does pitiful damage on most of the targets except low mages due to its piercing nature and the armors, but now you propose a new splinter wall with nerfed duration AND damage ? Really I don't get it...

I did some tests with lvl5 splinter on unranked mobs : around 20/tick, on lvl50 unbuffed knight : 15 / tick, and same thing on guards, for 10 seconds...

It was already a lame spell and you made it even worse... Of course now this ex-aura spell won't eat the server CPU since nobody will ever use it.

It would have been more logical to increase the damage instead of nerfing it (and it's even needed due to the armor increase/fix), just to make this spell worth something...


Then, there's some positionning issues (see attachs), esp when guards go back to their initial position, you see that they get stuck on wall, but in fact they are really back to their initial position

And some log issues, spells not appearing in log (last attach)

[ncvr]

Conjus NEED to be able to do some light tanking. It doesn't matter what areas/auras/CCs you give other classes. In a game like this, they will NOT be able to fully protect conjus. Any class can put out enough pressure while conserving mana to force a conju to retreat/cast SS. Marksmen, even in their miserable state, can put enough pressure on a conju with only a few normal hits to stop him healing allies and start healing and buffing themselves. That's not how it should be.

[ayexeyen_]

(Just a note about the tone. I am trying to be constructive and calm, maybe doesn't seem so but it is because my bad english)

Originally Posted by chilko

Hello everyone!
We have been working like crazy.

Thanks for that, I hope that these changes can improve the gameplay but unfortunately I continue to see my class (the barbarians) as a underdogs.

Here now my observations:

Originally Posted by chilko

We also changed from a Casting time to a casting speed model, for both normal attacks and spells.
Arcane devotion has been increased by 2 to cope with this new non-linear model. Other speed altering spells will be adjusted like this soon.

As I can see you have increase arcane devotion to compensate the change.
You say also "Other speed altering spells will be adjusted like this soon."
Do you mean that you will change also Thirst for blood? Because this spell give also attack speed. I see that you have changed it in someway but why not increase by 2 the speed bonus?

Originally Posted by chilko

Warriors:

• Typhoon: Enhanced chances from level 1 to 4 (50, 60, 70, 80%) and reduced at level 5 (90%).
  
• Mind squasher: A bug has been corrected that might prevent this spell to work as intended
  
• Thunder strike: Adjusted Stun Chances from level 1 to 5 (50, 60, 70, 80, 90%).
  
• Martial reflexes: A bug has been corrected that might prevent this spell to work as intended

You have nerfed a bit thunder strike, now at level 5 it doesn't have anymore the 100% of probability to stun...
Practically it's a nerf on a warrior ability. I am not so happy of that... However we have to test it, maybe in the new landscape the warriors are better than before.
About mind squasher and martial reflexes, what have you changed? Were them broken? If martial reflexes did not increase the critical as intended probably also "Execution" doesn't.

Originally Posted by chilko

Barbarians:

• Thirst for blood: It can be cast regardless of the weapon round.
• Rage of the earth: Chance of knock down progression changed from levels 1 to 5 (50, 60, 70, 80, 90%).

Thanks for the change in rage of the earth, the problem for this skill is also that it doesn't do so much damage and often
people use expansive wave instead of rage.

Now, sorry, but I have some criticisms...

Have you think to something for the Spear tree? At the moment the spears are really bad for warriors.

About old objects.
I paid for good objects from Lucky box, some of them give cast speed and attack speed. With these changes you are substantially changing my objects, that doesn't seem right for me. As someone have already suggested (look here: http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ad.php?t=62826) I think that you should double the speed of the objects, but only for the objects that have been bought in the past. Also the RoL now is less effective (making Ignis weaker), will you double its AS?

You have think a lot about knights, they are important but, again, what about barbarians?

This threads in the balance section are really interesting:

(By Arafails):
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...31&postcount=1

(By Mattdoesrock):
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...08&postcount=1

Let me know what do you think.