RFC: Marksman build sans Recharged

[Shwish]

Originally Posted by SanguineLamai

(Request for Comments)

http://trainer.claninquisition.org/t...CeueyffbuaffFt

Enio broke it down pretty well so I won't give you much more advice. If you're chosing to play without recharged arrows, your role would change to more of an annoyance than a damage dealer. A role better suited to hunters, I would go as far as suggesting rolling one because it seems like it would suit you far better.

I would suggest you focus more on CC and debuffs than damage. You wont win any PvP's with this setup but you could be helpful to your team. Dropping escapist to 1 and removing all the points in Wits could free up 6 points for you. You don't need to put escapist any higher than 1 imho.

Get rid of sentinel and use those points on retaliation rather. Also spells like ambush, stun fist and dirty fighting are good to have. I'm not sure how effective Finesse is.

Using Seeking strike is a nice idea for a supportive marksman (never seen one of those before) but I would suggest you get at least 1 point into Break Apart for the ability to stack constitution debuffs. Omnipresent? Drop it rather. Sticky Touch is nice to use on enemy barbarians although its not a commonly used spell, I still quite like it. I always find mobility to be a good spell to have and caltrop's arrow could be worth investing into for your role.

However I wouldn't recommend playing a marksman without recharged arrows. I wish you luck with the build you're working on. By the way nice character names.

[Piotin]

I agree with what's said above, seems like you're trying to fit a hunter role to a class that's not (entirely) suited for it.
Rerolling a hunter might be a better idea if not for all the grinding... Besides, there are also still "knarbs" around who seem to enjoy themselves, so hopefully you'll find something that does work for RA-less marks ("harks", "munters", uhm...).

Originally Posted by Shwish

By the way nice character names.

Bloody southerners ....

[blood-raven]

my setup:

link

I try to be all-round and with maxed out cc's, i don't care what other people think about that, a ws 5 can save someone's life, same with a ds 5.

Especially when they are knocked

[Tamui]

Originally Posted by Mehran

the unfreeze spell is op

To kill allies, I agree.

Eh, _Enio_ and Shwish are right.

Concentration is a little unknown to people. The only usefulness I've found is to build a Critical Hit Chance Setup.
For Lethal Strike, I like to buff to my maximum then cast it for maximum chance of effect. You have only Manuever to accompany that.
Recharged Arrows is still a vital spell for Marksmen. If you suffer from it greatly then drop it to 4 or 3. I do sometimes play without RA on, but I always include it.
No Ambush is interesting, still a vital spell nonetheless the range.
Finesse; Finesse is a decent spell. However, it does not work alone. You need to have more powerpoints sink to make Finesse work.
I used to get Wits, but really, it isn't that worth it. I heard it's better to get Mana items as they regenerate your mana more efficiently.

I am mostly repeating the stuff said already.
Anyway if you want a Critical hit chance setup here's the link for a little guidance.

[clavinfay2010]

Nothing special, just my setup, hope it might help.
http://trainer.claninquisition.org/t...oruxEfacqaeaza

[SanguineLamai]

Thank you all for the comments.

I was really just trying to get a varied opinion. I dont think I would play the class particularly well, as Im more adjusted to hunter style play.

Thats why I asked.

And yes, Swish dear, I like my names too, however I was going to name my Lamai marks Ygritte.

[Checkit]

I haven't been able to test this setup properly yet, but so far it works decent for me.

I think if you can build your AS up enough to make up for the missed damage from RA, then you should be ok.

http://trainer.claninquisition.org/t...gmmdtaaauFfaFf

I am using 2 RoLs right now. Hopefully I'll be able to find some 5% AS leggings to go with them, and maybe an epic LB or SB with AS too. I find this setup better than my RA setup because of more mana. I'll let you know in a couple of days how it goes for me in war and more pvps.

[SanguineLamai]

Originally Posted by Checkit

I haven't been able to test this setup properly yet, but so far it works decent for me.

I think if you can build your AS up enough to make up for the missed damage from RA, then you should be ok.

http://trainer.claninquisition.org/t...gmmdtaaauFfaFf

I am using 2 RoLs right now. Hopefully I'll be able to find some 5% AS leggings to go with them, and maybe an epic LB or SB with AS too. I find this setup better than my RA setup because of more mana. I'll let you know in a couple of days how it goes for me in war and more pvps.

Hmmmm,

but dont you have to go up basically 25% in AS to even qualify the difference from Slow to Medium or Medium to Fast?

If only Dead Eye would last a little longer than 20 seconds. Then it might be an adequate replacement for RA.

[Checkit]

Originally Posted by SanguineLamai

Hmmmm,

but dont you have to go up basically 25% in AS to even qualify the difference from Slow to Medium or Medium to Fast?

If only Dead Eye would last a little longer than 20 seconds. Then it might be an adequate replacement for RA.

That is what is said, but I notice a pretty big difference with just 15% AS.

Yea, I wish it did last longer...I wish Hawkz Gaze lasted longer as well or had a lower CD, but that could just be me.

[SanguineLamai]

Originally Posted by Checkit

That is what is said, but I notice a pretty big difference with just 15% AS.

Yea, I wish it did last longer...I wish Hawkz Gaze lasted longer as well or had a lower CD, but that could just be me.

My hunter carries a range 35 bow thats medium speed.

If I could get that to fast speed with extra gear (I do have AS leggings, and 1 RoL). It wouldnt be a bad thing.

but I see 25% as just a little too unrealistic.