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Old 09-19-2013, 11:49 AM   #11
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For example: I have chars that were bound to that place, and they havent died since I logged them (for a few time now) i didnt have any freaking idea that i would ress there, and that was what i meant that i would get a ban if somehow i log them, they die and i ress there (if i don't forget to change my altar).
I agree that a permanent ban isn't necessary and NGD should look into it a bit more before they drop a permanent ban on someone. However in this particular case, the player was fully aware of what he was doing and had no intention to bind at another save based on his statement made here.

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Everyone else but me had already chosen a new alter...
You cannot go back and pick this alter.
Where I spawn cannot be duplicated by other people.
Thus said, there will not be armies of people spawning there preventing war

I kept it as my alter because I often go reskill to help people level up....

I don't want to change my alter... never will... just like I am keeping all my old weapons and armor. It's MINE, I got and did everything legit. Your lack of understanding "save camping me" stole time from my life and made everyone around me in real life suffer.
A one week ban and threat of a permanent ban if he still refuses to select another bind point would have made more sense. Either way he isn't innocent unlike the scenario you pointed out.
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Old 09-19-2013, 12:12 PM   #12
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I still have a mid 30's alt I don't use saved at the frozen wind forest alter. Maybe I'm due a ban because of it but it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, surely it cant be that hard to purge that point and overwrite it with the first spawn in the noob zone.
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Old 09-19-2013, 12:35 PM   #13
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Guys, guys....

It is part NGD fault and part DMC, so for me permanent ban is a bit too harsh.

As a software developer when you make changes you do some housekeeping tasks to update and normalize your database after. If you change saves - then you update all player savepoints to the new location no matter they want or not...

Second DMC spawns at a location without altar but he does not abuse a bug - well in some sort he does, but he does nothing in fact. He dies then respawns and so on. Sure it looks weird to see a player that spawns in a middle of nowhere...

Lift the damn perma ban and rebind all this old chars to the actual locations.

Case solved...

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I still remember how tesi got perma banned and how people fought to see her back. I do not think DMC is a bad guy and wanted to "abuse" this case. For me he is a part of the old RO and to lose such people will be very very sad.

Remove this stupid ban.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:45 PM   #14
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For the past two days prior the ban he was running around spamming that gender change animation, pissing off people, doing nothing useful. For this alone he could IMO get a week ban. Considering his history of bans he should get banned even for slight abuse cause he is recidivist. There was good reason to have him perma banned.

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I still remember how tesi got perma banned and how people fought to see her back. I do not think DMC is a bad guy and wanted to "abuse" this case. For me he is a part of the old RO and to lose such people will be very very sad.
You must be kidding. Tesi wasn't banned for ingame activities or bug abusing but for one post in this forum, so comparing those two cases is, to be very light said, silly.
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:04 PM   #15
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Yes tesi ban was different it is true. You are right Dupa.

Well i do not know alot about what happened before and what actually happened in this case.

I'm confused now. Blah...
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:34 PM   #16
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pissing off people, doing nothing useful.


Oh the irony.

OT: Gives you a better reason to leave the game DM .

Banned for using an old altar, from my understanding people were spawn camping you.

Isn't there an un-written rule that that isn't allowed? Especially inside a realm?

Either way, see you around DM.. don't expect so much and don't expect so little from well, you know.
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:01 PM   #17
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Since you guys do not know what I have been banned for in the past or my history, I will tell you.

Since before beta, I have been helping promote this game by making over 2000 copies of regnum online on cd and handing them out at colleges, at malls, at middle schools, at leasing offices (this is where Battle Angel Alita came from), and every other place I could. I tried to populate this game, to keep it alive. I found and reported many bugs to NGD. I left for a while and I came back to see if they fixed what I had reported.

1) I logged in and checked to see if ngd fixed the problems with walking around realm walls into inner realm. "I recorded it and sent it back to ngd saying this still exists and how to solve it" Someone else recorded me and said ban him - this was my first ban. Then NGD said only test on test server.

2) My second ban came when the game had a bug and no one could see clan names. I took pictures of everyone on my screen and proved they had no clan name. Then I renamed my clan to " " space space.. NGD then banned me again without warning. I got back and they said never name your clan blank spaces..

3) My third and final ban comes from this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks4qR2mUxp8
It shows me die somewhere in the warzone and respawn inside my realm at my old save alter. Next you see alsius save camp me. They thought I set my save alter to this location by a hack. They called me an asshole... But look at what is really happening.... I tried to lure them away from where I would respawn so I could escape and keep playing. However, HaterSlayer called more and more people to camp me and my location to prevent my escape. I did nothing wrong. I never changed my save alter. Why should I have to? This is the first time I ever got spawn camped here. My alter is very close to medenet alter. Its the same one that we all had before ngd changed them like 4 times. I did nothing wrong.
Telling me to change my alter because ngd has changed locations is like telling me to delete all my old weapons because ngd changed the game and added new weapons. Makes no sense.... My old weapons cannot be gained by any new players nor my old game items. Should those be discarded and new ones obtained also. No.

The point is... I know personally that some people want me gone and their personal reasons for it.

I save camp killed surakor many times when he used to play in syrtis.
Hounded him till he just logged off his player account then onto his admin account to yell at me and kick me off. He said "God can't I even relax now without you killing me over and over" There were many more instances. I played the game. I enjoyed the game. I gave it more of my life and a life of its own.

If you think I was a pain.... you don't know what pains I prevented you from suffering.

I solved many issues here with the admins and devs in the past.

1) Item dupe
2) Speed hack
3) Mountain Climbing over walls/high hills
4) Player Name Permanently Shown on screen of enemy
5) Skill issues
6) the list is endless....


You think you know.. but you have no idea.
I have been crucified... then insulted by the masses. http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...d.php?t=100198

I forgive you all..

Bye
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:15 PM   #18
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"He's guilty!"

"It's not his fault, it's just yet another bug that wasn't fixed!"

"Ban him, he is totally guilty!"

"Please don't ban him, he's not a bad guy!"

Why do you all have to act like stupid plebeians in a Roman Coliseum? Why do
you keep thinking that your opinion matters? Didn't you get enough reasons to
realize that you are valuable only when you buy ximerin? Why are you all
missing the big picture here? And the big picture shows that NGD has totally
failed yet another time to handle a tricky situation. Or is just happy with
the way things are evolving.

Fact 1.

Somehow this whole thing totally shifted from a horde of mobs suddenly spawning
at gate, which provides reasons to assume that a GM was involved, to bashing a
player who, according to his own words, just kept respawning at the altar he
was saved. The crowd is happy, the crowd just follows the mob mindset and keeps
bashing that guy. NGD seems to be happy too, because more bashing someone else
is getting - less bashing is left to be directed at them.

Fact 2.

The thread about mob spawn at gate
(http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...d.php?t=100146) is, of course,
already closed, "to avoid any kind of conflict among the community". I don't
believe in this reason. I think this is the real reason that got it closed
(http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...7&postcount=59)
Adrian was asked a direct question and didn't want to answer it. Now that the
thread is closed - he doesn't have to answer. Simple, effective. As usual.
Just censorship at work. But this is not the only reason why this thread was
closed. Keep reading and find out more.

Fact 3.

The witchhunt started with this post
(http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...0&postcount=23).
Unlike many other situations, this post wasn't censored. There's a well known
forum rule that doesn't allow players to blame other players and post proofs
related to cheats and ill behavior. This reason was invoked many times by those
who tried to defend their cheating buddies. This reason was invoked many times
by NGD to strangle debates they find inconvenient. Why wasn't it applied this
time? I am not playing the devil's advocate here, I am not trying to use this
reason as shield for covering up someone who did something that was perceived
as cheating. This is just a rhetorical question.

Fact 4 (tied closely to Fact 3).

Please see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks4qR2mUxp8 - the "cheat proof".
Please pay attention to the title. It says "Why cant i rezz at wall during an
invasion". So, if mr Scias (who thinks he stands the moral ground to play the
impartial judge and I think he doesn't, but that's offtopic here and I won't
elaborate) thinks DMC is guilty for not rebinding himself to another altar, let
me ask you - is Hater Slayer (who has got himself a reputation of putting
personal gains, especially material ones, above anything else) guilty for
basically lobbying NGD to allow him to respawn at gate, because that's how the
title of his video can be interpreted? Does he deserve a ban for it?

Fact 5

NGD treats arising issues preferentially. I refuse to think of another reason
why this (http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...d.php?t=100071) and
this (http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...d.php?t=100092) have
exactly ZERO feedback from NGD to this day, considering how deep they got
themselves involved with the mobspawn at gate incident. Well, at least till
the thread was closed.

Fact 6

This is perhaps the worst thing I ever saw in the forum. Have a look at
(http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...d.php?t=100198) What do you
see there? Because all I see there is collective bullying and harassment,
coming mostly from Alsius players, that happens with the silent approval of
NGD. Adrian has time to argue and complain that NGD staff doesn't get enough
respect from the community, that they are always so stressed having to cope
with haters (http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...d.php?t=100078).
Frosk has time to come and close an inconvenient thread
(http://www.championsofregnum.com/for...d.php?t=100146) but pretends
to not see that bunch of jerk posts in the aforementioned thread (look at the
post dates, they were made before the other thread was closed). And you even
dare to voice complaints about not getting enough respect? Well, what's
happening in forum lately doesn't really contribute to people respecting
eachother more. As for the gang of mockers mentioned above, they might want to
read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann). Because they are all going
to repeat the fate of that guy sooner or later. In context of this game.

inb4 we are a small team
inb4 stop hating on us
inb4 man up and post from your main account
inb4 [insert your "excuse" here]
and here cums da closed thread cuz u so rite all hail dictatorship all hail sensorship
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:26 PM   #19
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Oh the irony.
Lol, cared to bring your butthurt here? Or I guess you are missing meaning the word "irony". I do not freeze knocked enemies, I do not freeze GCs, I do not screw other peoples' stuns (if sometimes happen I APOLOGISE), I do not mischieviously heal locks that want to use their health drain spells. It's rather domain of you and your friends, so I hardly understand your barking here. If I don't like someone I just treat him like bad air and call sucker a sucker.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:17 PM   #20
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While it's true such affairs shouldn't be treated in public, well unfortunately it has been, and it's less the fault of the 'crowd' than the one that posted the youtube 'proof' video and the other ones that are denying/complaining about the NGD decision.

My post was more of a response to starshine's that would find almost normal to see people using inexisting altars to their convenience, because it was yet another unpredicted consequence of an NGD update. But then if this is tolerable, then all the cases of bug-using should be, such as magna/item dupe, gem drowning and so on... However if effectively the player wasn't aware of the change yet and was condemned to rez at this fake altar endlessly then this doesn't apply.

Now that DM stays banned or not, that the punishment is too harsh or not, I couldn't care less. I have no gripe nor particular sympathy for him (But I bet your forum finding skills would have returned something about that) and I don't know if he merits all the flame from some other people here... But then if he's in the same case of starshine and that he knew about it, whether this gave him no advantage in this particular situation and that his accuser is a bully or not (which is totally irrelevant here anyways), then my point is that they have no right to complain the decision.
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