people from Georgia (Sakartvelo)

[BlooD]

Originally Posted by aardvak2669

I don't care who started what

I care that innocent people die, not only soldiers, and I mourn for them. They die for stupid reasons and without a chance to say bye to their beloved. That's why I made this thread. Not to discuss who's fault is that

I agree with you but there is always a reason to start this kind of things i dont see how talking about how it started its bad.

I am not triying to defend any side and i dont want to give them logic reasons to do that.

As zielski said news dont reach us fast if some people doesnt want it so after all we want to know why that idiocy is happening, as i said that the nformation i could gather living in Spain, zielski says its a little different there.

If people is dieng we want to know why they are dieing, its not the same if they are just defending themselves than if they are attacking another countries for money.

Originally Posted by Gravat

I have a bad feeling this won't end well, isn't US an ally of Georgia?

Yup, US warned them about it in July:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7499227.stm

Yeah but i dont think they are enough idiot to angry europe too, europe wants georgia without russian influence to have gas and ore who not pass directly under russian hands.

[ArcticWolf]

Originally Posted by aardvak2669

Due to the war caused today by Russian forces I want to express my deepest condolence for people who died there, today and will in the future days of upcoming war.

Oh, no... Not another war...
I'll google about this war up now.

[Pizdzius]

Georgia isn't of any interest for US to defend them. If US and Russia will start fighting, that will mean world war III

[ArcticWolf]

Originally Posted by aardvak2669

Georgia isn't of any interest for US to defend them. If US and Russia will start fighting, that will mean world war III

I don't think so... After all, Russia and US are more or less the same.

Both of them know that having a war wouldn't benefit them. They want conflicts and battles in order to profit from reconstruction and weaponry.

[-Edge-]

Originally Posted by Xephandor

I don't think so... After all, Russia and US are more or less the same.

Both of them know that having a war wouldn't benefit them. They want conflicts and battles in order to profit from reconstruction and weaponry.

You never know what comes out in an opprotunity to destroy the US. Russia was angered by them aswell because the US will be setting up and anti-rocket defense shield in Poland.

And from the Middle Eastern point of view, the US invaded their "peaceful lands"

Korea + Iran + Russia vs US

[Pizdzius]

Originally Posted by Xephandor

I don't think so... After all, Russia and US are more or less the same.

Both of them know that having a war wouldn't benefit them. They want conflicts and battles in order to profit from reconstruction and weaponry.

With economy cooling today, war is perfect to make money. You wouldn't believe how much profit federal bank could get from loaning money (like they did in WWII)

[ArcticWolf]

Originally Posted by aardvak2669

With economy cooling today, war is perfect to make money. You wouldn't believe how much profit federal bank could get from loaning money (like they did in WWII)

Ok, that's true, but wars are often a high number of battles with a common conflict. As you say, war, combats and even small battles are profitable and they'll keep doing it until the world is reduced to ashes.

Ex mea sententia (IMO) that there won't be a WWIII, just a global conflict with no sides, no objectives and nothing more than monetary interests.

[Pizdzius]

Originally Posted by Xephandor

Ok, that's true, but wars are often a high number of battles with a common conflict. As you say, war, combats and even small battles are profitable and they'll keep doing it until the world is reduced to ashes.

Ex mea sententia (IMO) that there won't be a WWIII, just a global conflict with no sides, no objectives and nothing more than monetary interests.

and that is called a world war, xeph

[ArcticWolf]

Originally Posted by aardvak2669

and that is called a world war, xeph

Oook.

The only thing that matters is that we're pretty much doomed.

[Hell_bound]

War...

Such as it is its apart of the human condition...

The need to control...

And in this case the need is about controlling oil fields and gas pipelines...

While at the same time preventing "others" from stepping in and taking control away from the Russians like what happened in Kosovo...

America and its allies in the UN sit stationary because:

(1) Russia, for at least two years now, has been flexing its military might through non-hostile, but yet alarmingly aggressive, acts such as flying fighter jets into European air space, flying fighter jets over American navel ships in the Persian Gulf, warning the west of its new global missile network, and warning the west that if it interfered with helping rebel states it would be seen as an act of war

(2) America and its allies in the UN needs Russia's help in dealing with Iran, for Russia, as well as China, can give Iran many opportunities to escape UN sanctions - such as allowing Iran to deposit the money it makes off of oil in its banks, safe from the sanctions which call for the freezing, seizing of all Iranian money in international banks - something that is apart of the latest round of fresh sanctions to be put on Iran

And (3) Russia is just to powerful, militarily, to mess with...


When you want the world to bend to your wishes sometimes a compromise must be made and one must weigh between the lesser-of-two-evils...


If we allow Russia to do this, will they help with Iran...
That is the justification...
And a rather dumb one, for stillness shows weakness...
And the West cannot afford to be seen as weak...

LOL!