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Old 01-12-2009, 02:50 AM   #11
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Matt...

You do understand that Ignis has co-op'd with syrtis to invade alsius right?? I don't get involved in it much (will go to a fort but will leave if we help another realm)...but all realms are doing it.
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:00 AM   #12
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I never denied that, but this is happening to Ignis every day, at nearly every fort.

Every day Syrtis takes Shaana + Samal and Alsius takes Meni. Alsius then either sends some people to help at samal and / or Shaana.

It's a foregone conclusion. There are no two ways about it.

What alot of people are doing now is leaving their chars at certain places like; Shaana, Samal and Meni, and are just hopping between each, when one is taken. Which, at current peak times, is pretty much all the time.
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:04 AM   #13
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I never denied that, but this is happening to Ignis every day, at nearly every fort.

Every day Syrtis takes Shaana + Samal and Alsius takes Meni. Alsius then either sends some people to help at samal and / or Shaana.

It's a foregone conclusion. There are no two ways about it.

What alot of people are doing now is leaving their chars at certain places like; Shaana, Samal and Meni, and are just hopping between each, when one is taken. Which, at current peak times, is pretty much all the time.
I use to leave Venom there, but since i'm grinding him now i'm moving my next highest char there... my lvl 26 barb ^^
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:13 AM   #14
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I never denied that, but this is happening to Ignis every day, at nearly every fort.

Every day Syrtis takes Shaana + Samal and Alsius takes Meni. Alsius then either sends some people to help at samal and / or Shaana.

It's a foregone conclusion. There are no two ways about it.

What alot of people are doing now is leaving their chars at certain places like; Shaana, Samal and Meni, and are just hopping between each, when one is taken. Which, at current peak times, is pretty much all the time.
(I am sorry if my English is unpolite, do not know how to say it softer)

The first co-op realm SUCCESSFUL invasion and steal of TWO gems was from Syrits and Ignis. They even pact to take one gem each, because they did not try to steal each other gems in the warzone.

Alsius hold against co-op enemies for 5 days (exactly how you describe Matt but against Alsius, remember please) then we get invaded and lost our TWO gems. I remember it clearly, Syrtis at Trelle and Castle, Ignis at Aggers and at Imperia's Save.

Ignis should have known that when Alsius lost its gems, Ignis would be the next target of the zerg . What you are describing and showing, Alsius lived it first. We survived and we keep fighting.

This is just a war game, there are players that decide not to attack some realm in order to "help" a possible invasion. Players NOT realms, you know this
Ignis does it too, Ignis and Syrtis did it first (again, remember which realm lost its two gems first? remember how it happened? remember how Syrtis and Ignis did not try to steal each other blue gems in the war zone?).

Show me proof that Ignis WILL NEVER HELP Syrtis again and then we will talk about alliances.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:34 AM   #15
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Ok, let me make this 100% clear.
I don't give a f*ck where I fight - might it be Shaanarid, Menirah, Samal, Herbred, Algaros, Eferias...
I don't care about invasions, really, since I know the only realm that can invade another realm without help during peak times is Syrtis.
What I care about is a good fight, and I can get that without trying to start an invasion - that's why I usually prefer to stay at a fort.

There is no reason for me to go away from one fort to another, to co-operate with enemies - it won't increase my fun, in case (ofcourse) no enemies are comming to the fort we are holding due to the other fort/castle being higher priority.
In that case we might go to another fort and try to either attack the defenders or the attackers.
Why? Because we want to help someone? No.
Because we want to have fun!

A game is really about having fun, nothing else.
Noone has to participate in the invasions, but still it seems like if everyone feels like the invasions are now a need to have fun?
And because of that people starts accusing others of co-operating...

What about the old times at pinos, where greens could show up from pp while Ignis held Aggers.
Did we accuse you for cooperation, because you attacked us from two different flanks? I don't think so.
The only time I've seen two realms really cooperate was Alsius + Ignis at Herbred, arranged by me and Dark Feanor and Ignis + Syrtis at Imperia not too long ago.
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:07 PM   #16
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I don't care about invasions, really, since I know the only realm that can invade another realm without help during peak times is Syrtis.
What I care about is a good fight, and I can get that without trying to start an invasion - that's why I usually prefer to stay at a fort.
And everynight Syrtis fails. Sometimes I really feels like Pinky and the brain (:

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The only time I've seen two realms really cooperate was Alsius + Ignis at Herbred, arranged by me and Dark Feanor and Ignis + Syrtis at Imperia not too long ago.
You and Evil Feanor ... tsss I can't Imagine the PITA for Syrtis.
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Ignis was also helped by Alsius to invade Syrtis:
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3...0505325le2.jpg

When Alsius takes Eferias, It is defended by Ignis and Alsius:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...3&d=1231697470 (see the log)
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...4&d=1231697470

PD: These pics was taken from Spanish forum (they are not mine).
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:01 PM   #18
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Ok, let me make this 100% clear.
I don't give a f*ck where I fight - might it be Shaanarid, Menirah, Samal, Herbred, Algaros, Eferias...
I don't care about invasions, really, since I know the only realm that can invade another realm without help during peak times is Syrtis.
What I care about is a good fight, and I can get that without trying to start an invasion - that's why I usually prefer to stay at a fort.

There is no reason for me to go away from one fort to another, to co-operate with enemies - it won't increase my fun, in case (ofcourse) no enemies are comming to the fort we are holding due to the other fort/castle being higher priority.
In that case we might go to another fort and try to either attack the defenders or the attackers.
Why? Because we want to help someone? No.
Because we want to have fun!

A game is really about having fun, nothing else.
Noone has to participate in the invasions, but still it seems like if everyone feels like the invasions are now a need to have fun?
And because of that people starts accusing others of co-operating...

What about the old times at pinos, where greens could show up from pp while Ignis held Aggers.
Did we accuse you for cooperation, because you attacked us from two different flanks? I don't think so.
The only time I've seen two realms really cooperate was Alsius + Ignis at Herbred, arranged by me and Dark Feanor and Ignis + Syrtis at Imperia not too long ago.
I don't really understand what you're getting at.

You say that you might leave one fort, as no one is attacking it, to fight at another. Ok, that's fine, I have zero problems with that. But there is a difference between that and standing shoulder to shoulder with another realm, and teaming up to help fight the other realm --> As seen on 4 different occasions last night. Twice at Shaana, once at Samal and at Meni (where Syrtis helped Alsius.) And that was just while I was online.

And about the "old times." I'm with you on that. I much prefered the game when fort wars had no point to them. The game was so much more fun and casual. I loved the Samal - Herb - Samal - Herb "ping pong" as we called it. Now.. It's just stressful.. All I do is defend at Shaana and Samal. Hell, I havn't left Ignis for days.

And at Pinos, if Syrtis ever showed up, we'd always attack them, they would attack us. That's how it always was. I loved those three-way fort battles!

But surely you cannot deny that Alsius has not been helping Syrtis? I don't deny that Ignis has not helped Syrtis / Alsius in the past, but this is different. This is nearly everyday and is becoming more and more common.
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:09 PM   #19
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Step up in game and drop the whining in the forums.
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Old 01-12-2009, 04:30 PM   #20
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But surely you cannot deny that Alsius has not been helping Syrtis? I don't deny that Ignis has not helped Syrtis / Alsius in the past, but this is different. This is nearly everyday and is becoming more and more common.
Why is it different? In all Ignis invasions of Syrtis, Alsius helped Ignis. To invade Alsius, Ignis and Syrtis cooperated. Now, Ignis has 4 gems, Alsius and Syrtis only 1, and therefore the main goal is to invade Ignis.

If you don't like this situation, you should propose some alternatives (for example, one reign only can be invaded by the reign that takes the castle), because this kind of posts only provoke problems.
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