Which Type of Hunter

[Drogar]

hey DMC AQ! (remember radazek) you are a skilled player (you were the best ninja type in old times imo) its sad that you dont play anymore, but maybe someday you can give a try again, dont you?

i agree with you ByteMe hunters are weak atm but i like it this way cos now you have to be clever then ever if you play a hunter, im trying many setups with/without pets to find the most effective one. in fact i want to find a good setup without pet but yesterday night i tried a setup with pet and i liked it (but i ll not reveal it here its a big secret - just kidding). however im saying that i want a setup w/o pet, sometimes i think if i dont use a pet whats the difference between me and a marks with less dmg output, huh? im confused (lvl 5)

[_dracus_]

Ok here is my last setup:

short bows(19):
-dual shot(5)
-lightness(5)
-tear appart(5)
-hinder(2)
-repetition shot(5)

long bows(5):
-parabolic shot(1)
-maneuver(1)

tricks(11):
-retalation(3)
-ambush(1)
-sudden strike(1)
-dirty fighting(1)

scounting(19):
-ensaring arrow(5)
-ennemy surveillance(3)
-track ennemy realm(1)
-camouflage(5)
-wild spirit(5)

evasion(11):
-mobility(3)
-evasive tactics(3)
-acrobatic(3)
-low profile(1)

pets(19):
-control mounster(5)
-skin of the beast(3)

While hunting you use both tracking skills (<250m and <150m) to spot where people are. Tracking skills seems to give first ennemies that are far (beaware). Then camouflage to engage the fight on your terms.

In forts lie in camouflage in the ennemies line to see how they fight, it's really interesting and when the moment comes use repetition shot ^^.

With this setup you should have enought to fight a 1vs1, and if you pick up the good fights, it would go smoothly for you. Just don't forget you don't have the runaway card, so you have to fight a bit except against knight where I advice to run and shoot ^^

[Drogar]

Thx for setup gph, here is my last setup;

Tricks[19]
-Ambush(5)
-Stun.Fist(5)
-confuse(2)
-Dist.Shot(5)
-Caltorps(1)

Scouting[19]
-Ens.Arrow(5)
-Enemy Sur.(2)
-Camo(5)
-Wild Spirit(5)

Pets[19]
-Control Mons.(5)
-Natural Armour(5)
-Bestial wrath(1)

Short Bows[7]
-Lightness(2)

Evasion[13]
-Mobility(3)
-Acrobatic(3)
-Low profile(3)
-Spell Elude(3)

Long Bows[7]
-parabolic shot(1)
-Eagle's eye(1)

note that im using long bows and usually prefer solo hunt.with that setup my aim is to hold my opponent knocked/stunted as long as possible while my pet&me working on him/her.i usually make the first attack and keep him/her disoriented at the begining of fight so i throw everything i can asap, if all my (say tricks) spells are on cooldown and enemy still has more then (ofc that depends on lvl and class but im speaking general) half hp, i try to get away and shot&run from distance to finish off. i tried this setup a few times but not long enough to have a certain idea about the setup.
(btw, a lil bit off-topic but i really like that caltrop's arrow)

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Edit:correction of en.sur lvl

[_dracus_]

My advices (which are just my opinion):

For long bow usage I would advice at least level 11 with lvl 3 in parabolic shot and maneuver.

In tricks I would lower ambush a bit (level 3 maybe if you like to keep someone down) and distraction shot also (level 3 too) to get level 5 retaliation.

In evasion you can drop spell elude for evasive tactics (the loss of accuracy should be ok with maneuvre+eagle eye)

In scouting I would lower 2 points from ennemy surveillance because it tracks to far IMO. To me it seems to me tracker shows only the farest ennemies, so I use both ennemy surveillance and track realm ennemy to have one long range and one short range track.

[Drogar]

Originally Posted by gph

In scouting I would lower 2 points from ennemy surveillance because it tracks to far IMO

exactly, its my bad i wrote wrong, its lvl 2, thx for mentioning it. i will also try level 5 retaliation and evasive tactics, thx for advices gph

btw i wonder why this thread moved to inn? its about hunters after last changes, not something out of game but anyway np.

[Comp]

At current I use:

Short 11
- dual shot [3]

Tricks 19
- Ambush [5]
- Stuff Fist [5]
- Confuse [4]
- Dist shot [4]

Evasion 11
- Mobility [3]
- Acrobat [3]

Scouting 19
- Ensnare [5]
- En. Survel [3]
- Camo [5]
- Wild Spirit [5]
- Stalker [4]

Pets 19
- Control Monster [5]
- Beastial Wrath [5]

If alsius team play was a bit better I'd swap over to a config similar to Dracus'; however, when conjurers are worried about summoning zarkits over healing warriors....I have no urge to fight with groups....

[Drogar]

i will change my setup a lil bit thx to comp, i ll remove points from natural armour and give to bestial wrath. also i ll try short bows for dual shot but range advantage of long bows still attractive to me, yesterday i fight 1vs1 againts an lvl 50 sb user hunter with a pet (both pets are same, trolls), before he can shot me (thx to range advantage) i ambushed, ens.arrow, stun fist, a few normal shot and he is dead too quick. but as comp said me, if my initial atttacks resisted/evaded then im dead meat i would like to see a ninja type hunter post here his/her setup

[_dracus_]

Originally Posted by Drogar

i will change my setup a lil bit thx to comp, i ll remove points from natural armour and give to bestial wrath. also i ll try short bows for dual shot but range advantage of long bows still attractive to me, yesterday i fight 1vs1 againts an lvl 50 sb user hunter with a pet (both pets are same, trolls), before he can shot me (thx to range advantage) i ambushed, ens.arrow, stun fist, a few normal shot and he is dead too quick. but as comp said me, if my initial atttacks resisted/evaded then im dead meat i would like to see a ninja type hunter post here his/her setup

Short bow setup deals dmg faster than long bows IMO. For the pet i'm using savage goblin thoses days (I've been using aquantis elite a lot too). Remember for pets "this is not the size of the boat, but the motion in the ocean.."