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Old 06-18-2009, 01:42 PM   #11
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And please stop complaining about mages. We got nerfed alot anyway.
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This is the thing I've learned from always playing in an underpopulated realm - NEVER. GIVE. UP!
You have to keep fighting, learn from your mistakes, and become better than your enemies.
I was going to say something about the fact that you chose Ignis, but I just don't really care that much anymore. But really, the time that I am able to play (eastern US evenings) I have NEVER seen a fort take by LESS then 15 reds. And as such, there is a general apathy with fort wars in Alsius at the moment.

I can appreciate what you are trying to say, as I can also appreciate the fact that Alsius is also underpopulated on Ra (which was the thing that drew me to Alsius on Horus). But please, Please, PLEASE don't make absurd comparisons between the two. If you think the problem exists because players are simply "giving up", then it just goes to show how little you actually know about Alsius/Horus.

I really hope NGD realizes that the issue of realm balance is still in dire need of addressing.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:57 PM   #12
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Now for my 2-cents.

I have a lvl 50 hunter on Horus/Alsius and I don't play there for three reasons:

1) It's boring - not enough people
2) When there are enough people Alsius (for the most part) play like knuckle-heads.
3) Most level a character to 30-35 then start a new one rarely getting them to lvl 50. Believe it or not...being level 50 has a HUGE advantage in a fight...hell being above lvl 42 has a huge advantage.

Given that it's an english speaking server and there's ABSOLUTELY no coordination during attack baffles me. In most cases the warlocks just randomly throw terrors, warriors charge without notice and everyone openly argues about why so-and-so thinks they should be the leader.

Now, take RA for example. I don't speak spanish (only enough to assist in a fight); however, there's FAR more communication during a fight. Locks notify the group when terrors are ready, barbs onslaught, locks terror, and conjurers...yup...they heal. Alsius/Horus problem is partially population but mostly lack of communication and higher level players. I've tried to help in many fights only to get ignored when I ask everyone to wait until terrors are on cool-down, etc.

I know many that have came from RA to Horus/Alsius in hopes to help...all of which came to the same conclusion I did. Wudy, Fluffy, Boger, Matt, Sathilda, Inkser, etc. All AMAZING players only to realize Alsius doesn't want help they only want to PvE inside the safety of the realm walls.
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:59 PM   #13
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Obvious troll is obvious.


I was going to say something about the fact that you chose Ignis, but I just don't really care that much anymore. But really, the time that I am able to play (eastern US evenings) I have NEVER seen a fort take by LESS then 15 reds. And as such, there is a general apathy with fort wars in Alsius at the moment.

I can appreciate what you are trying to say, as I can also appreciate the fact that Alsius is also underpopulated on Ra (which was the thing that drew me to Alsius on Horus). But please, Please, PLEASE don't make absurd comparisons between the two. If you think the problem exists because players are simply "giving up", then it just goes to show how little you actually know about Alsius/Horus.

I really hope NGD realizes that the issue of realm balance is still in dire need of addressing.
Actually, my choice of Ignis was because I wanted to see how much difference there really was between Esquillos and Moloks, since I read a thread somewhere on the forums about it.
Then, later I needed a char to do some "investigations" and then my Ignis/Horus acc was just perfect since noone would ever connect it to me.

Everyone knows how loyal I am to my realm on RA, and how loyal I am to RA.
So Ignis/Horus would be like the last place people would expect me to be.

Then I grinded a bit for fun, made some friends and in the end I met Pwnies.
Without them I probably would have stopped playing there long time ago, since I don't like Horus in general.

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I can't tell from 1 battle the situation at Horus, ofcourse I can't.
I just give you my view of this battle and point out what I think was wrong.

By not playing like they did, Alsius could have recaptured the fort without much hassle.
This is all I wanted to point out.

Someday I might level up my char on Alsius/Horus to maybe get another view on the situation.
For now, this is what I have seen from my time being in the warzone.
And no, this fight at Aggers was not the first time I saw something like this.

PS. Nice post Comp, it pretty much sums up my experience of Alsius/Horus too from an attackers point of view.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:23 PM   #14
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Now for my 2-cents.
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I know many that have came from RA to Horus/Alsius in hopes to help...all of which came to the same conclusion I did. Wudy, Fluffy, Boger, Matt, Sathilda, Inkser, etc. All AMAZING players only to realize Alsius doesn't want help they only want to PvE inside the safety of the realm walls.

There will always be stupids in realm, and when you take the arguments of those stupids and generalize it on the whole realm it is really not fair.


Alsius has many brave fighters, trying to get better, fighting against the common frustration around. Standing up against greatly outnumbering armies trying to get something better again and again.

You, Comp, you left pretty quick.. pissed, took yourself back very fast once it wasnt to your convenience. Im okay with that but dont talk generalized bad in a way like this on Horus alsius. Most who came over didnt even try to make something better, once you didnt got respected your pissed and leave. I see much more durable to frustration ppl around then many "old ra" players.

New upcoming onces dont have it easy to get better.
We dont have many experienced highlvls (just check rp list of horus and search alsius there. exactly 1 is listed.) to learn from and loads of chaos, loads of frustration and ppl trying to find something else in game which makes them "fun" since fighting often is just frustrating to them.
So try to understand why many go grind. just beacause wz is no fun to them. they chose to grind over to leave.

Even when all do pretty good, there are so many fights where this ends too in no positive result. Its easy to bash the players but try to see the situation there.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:48 PM   #15
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There will always be stupids in realm, and when you take the arguments of those stupids and generalize it on the whole realm it is really not fair.


Alsius has many brave fighters, trying to get better, fighting against the common frustration around. Standing up against greatly outnumbering armies trying to get something better again and again.

You, Comp, you left pretty quick.. pissed, took yourself back very fast once it wasnt to your convenience. Im okay with that but dont talk generalized bad in a way like this on Horus alsius. Most who came over didnt even try to make something better, once you didnt got respected your pissed and leave. I see much more durable to frustration ppl around then many "old ra" players.

New upcoming onces dont have it easy to get better.
We dont have many experienced highlvls (just check rp list of horus and search alsius there. exactly 1 is listed.) to learn from and loads of chaos, loads of frustration and ppl trying to find something else in game which makes them "fun" since fighting often is just frustrating to them.
So try to understand why many go grind. just beacause wz is no fun to them. they chose to grind over to leave.

Even when all do pretty good, there are so many fights where this ends too in no positive result. Its easy to bash the players but try to see the situation there.
Enio, I wasn't looking for respect nor did I demand it. Additionally, this is not about me this is about Alsius/Horus as a whole. And if you can stand there and say that a large vast majority of Alsius doesn't do what I stated above then I retract my statement. Sadly, my statement is 100% right on and true. Alsius is currently weak NOT because it is underpopulated but because the people there (not all but a majority) choose not to play as a team but rather individuals OR they choose to PvE in a RvR game. The exceptions to this are players like yourself, Backe, Syd (when he played), folks from Frozen Flame, Fury, and a few others I wish I could name them all. The truth of the matter is...ignis and syrtis have more players CHOOSING to RvR than Alsius.

Alsius/HORUS players need to stop the constant leveling and join the fight. Get a char above lvl 43 and have some fun. I'm willing to bet that if they did that you'd have a larger force in the WarZone and things would be alot better for Alsius.

Oh...and my main #1 reason for going back to RA was boredom. On Horus I would hunt for 45 minutes sometimes and never come across anyone. I get more action faster on RA.

Now - ATTN NGD:
You all REALLY need to do something about the overall population on Horus.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:48 PM   #16
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Every visit i made to alsius (not many since i moved back to RA)
been just great in terms of cooperation and friendship.
Its really too bad that the server lacks in everything, i miss the non stop action on Ra when i go there.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:52 PM   #17
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Yes, Frozen Flame seems to be a big exception to whatever I said.
Too bad many of them don't play.
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:56 PM   #18
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There will always be stupids in realm, and when you take the arguments of those stupids and generalize it on the whole realm it is really not fair.


Alsius has many brave fighters, trying to get better, fighting against the common frustration around. Standing up against greatly outnumbering armies trying to get something better again and again.

You, Comp, you left pretty quick.. pissed, took yourself back very fast once it wasnt to your convenience. Im okay with that but dont talk generalized bad in a way like this on Horus alsius. Most who came over didnt even try to make something better, once you didnt got respected your pissed and leave. I see much more durable to frustration ppl around then many "old ra" players.

New upcoming onces dont have it easy to get better.
We dont have many experienced highlvls (just check rp list of horus and search alsius there. exactly 1 is listed.) to learn from and loads of chaos, loads of frustration and ppl trying to find something else in game which makes them "fun" since fighting often is just frustrating to them.
So try to understand why many go grind. just beacause wz is no fun to them. they chose to grind over to leave.

Even when all do pretty good, there are so many fights where this ends too in no positive result. Its easy to bash the players but try to see the situation there.
+1

I've been a 50 in HA (Horus Alsius) for almost 3 weeks now, and I know very few Ra vets, maybe 5-10 that I regularly interact with. While there are more and more players reaching high levels, it's too few and far between, it seems.

Yes, we are wholly underpopulated, but I still think it's a great realm.

Most of the regular players are goofy, laid-back and aloof like myself and we just want to have fun. I find myself still laughing at lot, yes, even when I get killed.

I really like Alsius, as I find a few really good players can make it really fun.

We could use more skilled players, true. But if you don't want to show up, that's fine too. Either way, we'll make the best of it.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:03 PM   #19
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I've not been on Horus / Alsius for long, but whenever I play there, I do enjoy myself. Everyone was instantly accepting, and all really nice.

I really want this realm to pull through, I don't want it to fall apart. I really wish I was a higher level there, so i could try and get people active in war, encourage people, try and give them some fighting spirit, to prove to the rest of Horus that Alsius can kick ass and take names. But levelling is just a joke now. Even more so on a Knight. I don't really have money for Xim, but even with it levelling is still a nightmare. NGD have ruined levelling for Knights...

But anyway, hopefully NGD can do something to help realm balance, and inspire people to fight for their realm, and that some RA "vets" can help this realm pull through.
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Old 06-18-2009, 03:30 PM   #20
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I made the suggestion on another thread that if a realm lost all its forts then the victors would be allowed past the losers wall into there territory for a set period of time to ransack and beat the snot out of the defeated.
Would not this actually, not only promote more rvr (as you wouldn't want to be invaded) but also attract people to the weaker realms for the challenge of defending it?

The problem from what I can gather is that there is no incentive to take part in rvr. Its safer to grind and play it safe while having a laugh with your mates. Maybe that part so the game should not be as secure as it is now.
It might also promote more teamwork re battles.

Just my 2 cents
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