Getting tired of some barbarians....... - Page 2

David-Ignis · 01-04-2010, 01:02 PM

For the guy who sent me red karma "Better you keep the mouth shut too":

I never said anybody to keep the mouth shut, so read the post before sending karma

Yes my post was a little "caliente" but I do not like people who does not know the game* and says me to keep the mouth shut and call me drama queen!

*Someone that says that barbarians are ok, does not know the game for me, or simply plays other classes.
Thank you for signing

Groark · 01-04-2010, 05:01 PM

For the record people: I (or anyone else in this thread) never said that Barbarians are ok, so no need to get excited...

In my thread I just said that I was tired of some barbarians who do not stop crying about how bad they have and how good other classes have.... So my advice to those few is: Or learn to play the way it is or change to the class you think is better. That's it.

UmarilsStillHere · 01-04-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Groark

change to the class you think is better. That's it.

With the number of barbs I know who are fed up with all the issues of the class quiting it would only increase the problems for the few that are left, if there is a problem in balance you need to work though it, not ignore it and jump to another class.

And if you want something to happen its more likely to happen if your vocal about it and try to point NGD in the directions the players think the game needs to go to improve, after all we are playing it far more than NGD so pointing out what we see as issues with balance gameplay bugs etc saves them having to find them themselfs, maybe NGD plays on the live servers sometimes under secret names I dont know, but Id think NGD spends very little time acctualy in game.

Groark · 01-04-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

...if you want something to happen its more likely to happen if your vocal about it and try to point NGD in the directions the players think the game needs to go to improve...

It is not "the players" in this case, it is just a couple of "barbarian" players triying to manipulate NGD for their own sake because they cannot cope with the changes NGD has made; they just live in the past. They are not representative of the Barbarian class at all.

Kyrottimus · 01-04-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

With the number of barbs I know who are fed up with all the issues of the class quiting it would only increase the problems for the few that are left, if there is a problem in balance you need to work though it, not ignore it and jump to another class.

Yet another +1 x 100%

Succinctly put.

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Originally Posted by Groark

It is not "the players" in this case, it is just a couple of "barbarian" players triying to manipulate NGD for their own sake because they cannot cope with the changes NGD has made; they just live in the past. They are not representative of the Barbarian class at all.

IMO all player's of all classes should have their opinions respected. Because if they play, they have their own unique viewpoint regarding it, and that viewpoint makes up a single yet significant part of the whole picture of how players (plural) perceive the game.

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They are not representative of the Barbarian class at all.

wow.... so let me see if I get your logic. Players whose main class is barbarian, and has an opinion about it that others may not agree with, are not representative of the barbarian class? Not even as a single representative source?

**cough** **cough**

Groark · 01-05-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyrottimus

IMO all player's of all classes should have their opinions respected. Because if they play, they have their own unique viewpoint regarding it, and that viewpoint makes up a single yet significant part of the whole picture of how players (plural) perceive the game.

Of course, no doubt about that. I thought that I made myself clear that it is the CONTINUOSLY whining and complaining of some players that I am tired of. So, I respect everybodys opinion as long as it does not turn into a continuosly attempt of manipulation.

UmarilsStillHere · 01-05-2010, 10:24 AM

Well if its an ongoing issue then people will continue to talk about it untill something is done or they are at the very least acknolaged by NGD and given a opinion on if they think its a problem or have plans to change it.

The world is always at war somewhere (issue) since the end of WW2 there has been less than 20mins recorded when no nation was at war (on going issue) thus peace protests are always going on (on going pressure to change) there wasnt one protest in 1945 then everyone said 'ok point made lets hope they take notice!' an on going issue needs on going debate, the same applys to issues in balance here. Eg Ignis/Alsius being zerged by Syrtis all the time, we have 10 threads on that not 1 because its a on going issue.

(and the reward for saying on going more than anyone else ever in one paragraph goes to Umaril!)

Gawyn_Trakkand · 01-05-2010, 06:56 PM

As some of you know i have access to a level 50 barb and regularly play it. Fortunatly I also have a lvl 50 knight to take the frustration of dying over and over and over again away. Barb is a very frustrating class, massively mana hungry and without the proper support are practically useless. I do agree as far as the whining is concerned you could just make another char (I know this is boring but hey). I however do not agree with the phrase 'Knights, mages have more of a right to complain' This is simply not true yes block is a fail but everyone who has been playing long enough has found a way to survive without relying on it. Mages just O.o i mean eh? You sure you're playing Regnum?

IMO all barb is good for is one area before they are knock juggled (even with UM) and killed and this is VERY frustrating and i believe barbs have a right to complain about it.

UmarilsStillHere · 01-05-2010, 07:07 PM

Ive been Sultar Ambush kick feint kick sultar ambush feint will domain (insert massive knock chain here)'ed today more times than Ive taken a step...

Also noticed a error with knights thats been around for a while, most people know it but hek its a warrior discussion. Knight defence royaly sucks vs high damage (like that delt by [buffed] barbs) today I landed a hit on a barb with frenzy on, 790ish damage he died so I moved to a near by knight who was on low hp (no ao1) without any crit, any new buffs or powers I hit 1.2k on him, I noticed this and had a bit of a wtf moment, Ive known about this issue for ages but seeing the differance in damage next to each other in the log really reminded me of it. Knights need a % damage resister spell that they can use as casualy as most players use acrobatic or frenzy, armour points just fail to soak high damage.

Gawyn_Trakkand · 01-05-2010, 07:23 PM

I have all 3 resist physical dmg passives on 4 but thats just me i doubt many other will do that

01-04-2010, 01:02 PM	#11
David-Ignis Apprentice Join Date: May 2008 Location: California, USA Posts: 86	For the guy who sent me red karma "Better you keep the mouth shut too": I never said anybody to keep the mouth shut, so read the post before sending karma Yes my post was a little "caliente" but I do not like people who does not know the game* and says me to keep the mouth shut and call me drama queen! *Someone that says that barbarians are ok, does not know the game for me, or simply plays other classes. Thank you for signing __________________ Tirador y Barbaro verdes ignotos - Barba y Tira rojos ignotos Necesito criticar

01-05-2010, 10:24 AM	#17
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Well if its an ongoing issue then people will continue to talk about it untill something is done or they are at the very least acknolaged by NGD and given a opinion on if they think its a problem or have plans to change it. The world is always at war somewhere (issue) since the end of WW2 there has been less than 20mins recorded when no nation was at war (on going issue) thus peace protests are always going on (on going pressure to change) there wasnt one protest in 1945 then everyone said 'ok point made lets hope they take notice!' an on going issue needs on going debate, the same applys to issues in balance here. Eg Ignis/Alsius being zerged by Syrtis all the time, we have 10 threads on that not 1 because its a on going issue. (and the reward for saying on going more than anyone else ever in one paragraph goes to Umaril!) __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

01-05-2010, 07:07 PM	#19
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Ive been Sultar Ambush kick feint kick sultar ambush feint will domain (insert massive knock chain here)'ed today more times than Ive taken a step... Also noticed a error with knights thats been around for a while, most people know it but hek its a warrior discussion. Knight defence royaly sucks vs high damage (like that delt by [buffed] barbs) today I landed a hit on a barb with frenzy on, 790ish damage he died so I moved to a near by knight who was on low hp (no ao1) without any crit, any new buffs or powers I hit 1.2k on him, I noticed this and had a bit of a wtf moment, Ive known about this issue for ages but seeing the differance in damage next to each other in the log really reminded me of it. Knights need a % damage resister spell that they can use as casualy as most players use acrobatic or frenzy, armour points just fail to soak high damage. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

01-04-2010, 05:01 PM	#12
Groark Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 116	For the record people: I (or anyone else in this thread) never said that Barbarians are ok, so no need to get excited... In my thread I just said that I was tired of some barbarians who do not stop crying about how bad they have and how good other classes have.... So my advice to those few is: Or learn to play the way it is or change to the class you think is better. That's it.

01-05-2010, 06:56 PM	#18
Gawyn_Trakkand Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 219	As some of you know i have access to a level 50 barb and regularly play it. Fortunatly I also have a lvl 50 knight to take the frustration of dying over and over and over again away. Barb is a very frustrating class, massively mana hungry and without the proper support are practically useless. I do agree as far as the whining is concerned you could just make another char (I know this is boring but hey). I however do not agree with the phrase 'Knights, mages have more of a right to complain' This is simply not true yes block is a fail but everyone who has been playing long enough has found a way to survive without relying on it. Mages just O.o i mean eh? You sure you're playing Regnum? IMO all barb is good for is one area before they are knock juggled (even with UM) and killed and this is VERY frustrating and i believe barbs have a right to complain about it.

01-05-2010, 07:23 PM	#20
Gawyn_Trakkand Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 219	I have all 3 resist physical dmg passives on 4 but thats just me i doubt many other will do that