Warjurers?

[Pnarpa]

I recently started grinding my conj again after seeing scias and ieti in action. I miss the supporting role. Thank god I already have a lvl 50 lock so I don't have to reset my conj constantly.

[Yawney]

Dislike would be my choice. I don't really appreciate seeing warjus that are getting heals even if they could take care of it quite easily. Also what's bigger pisser than being killed by one of your warjus' summon... Let alone the fact that sometimes they cast DI on the summon, ie waste really good buff on AI controlled creature that won't do anything in RvR (except that it deals the finishing blow on you)...

[Zale]

Im indifferent to warjus... It annoys me to see people calling them selfish though.. Arent you being just a little selfish by expecting every conju to heal you?

[SlackerLinux2]

Warju's don't have to be pure damage my Warju always had SM setup but he also had max mana com(before nerf), greater healing max mana pylon max, level 4 heal ally regen ally level 3 res for those i sacrificed points in sorcery and summons but that was ok summons are a pain because you had to re summon them every 5m and i didn't really need sorcery since barrier protected me enough with my level 16 +speed armour. my setup was focused on speed 2x light rings(other one off my marksman) lvl 16 +4i think speed armour +5 speed level mid30's gloves and a +6 speed med staff level 49 (not the best set you should have seen Beijing setup my speed was only a few points in speed down but he also had epic items with +dmg and he went all out warju for even more dmg).

you can have a hybrid setup and you can heal players give mana aswell as kick ass unfortunately that doesn't satisfy some people who constantly bitch about warjus well any warju and after a while mine was retired since i was sick of people moaning even though you looked after yourself all battle and everyone else too while still killing everything in sight.

people don't bother to look at what you do during the battle they look at your setup and judges you on that they don't bother to notice the constant heals being given out often to that exact same person mana com running whenever possible aswell as GH and MP

[Punti_X]

Many interesting points are stated here, let me add few from me:
Playing full support means staying back. Full support means that you have Heal ally (5), GH (5), MP (5), Dispell (5), Mass dispell (5), DI (5), MC (min.4), SB (min. 2), Ress (5), Sanct (min.3) and few buffs if you have some points left (from enchantment tree). All offensive spells are at level 1, and with this setup you are not able to defend yourself, and wearing off necro will take 10 minutes.
But there are some hybride setups where you can play much closer to front lines, and for example, you can sacrifice enchantment tree (buffs and dispells) for better mental tree (crowd controll spells) and you even can have Zarkit level 4. This way you can provide health, mana and cover, you are able to stop rushing warriors with pricking ivy / will domain / beatle swarm, silence locks in range, and your Zarkit will help finishing off the enemies.
But there is a catch: when you play full support, you are mainly concentrated on your people, when playing full offensive, your main target is enemy, and when you play hybride, you must consider both, and this is not an easy task!
I was playing full support for my first few months in wz, but, I got bored of staying back, so I invented the hybride setup to enjoy more front row action and still be good support, because, support can be offensive, too

[e30G]

Actually if you play support then you will have to pay attention to both enemies and allies. See what they are doing, predict their next move and act accordingly. Sometimes a Beetle Swarm 1 or a Will Domain 1 is better than a level 5 Heal Ally.

As for positioning, it doesn't matter if you are full support, a hybrid or a offensive conjurer. You can be at the front lines, the rear or smack at the middle. It depends on what the situation calls for.

And lastly, you did not invent the hybrid setup. :P Hybrid setups were here even back in beta.

[Recoil]

Originally Posted by Noicha

And why does everybody hates them?

Because lots of people have USI syndrome (link, nsfw), and actually think that conjurers owe them support.

[Punti_X]

Originally Posted by e30ernest

And lastly, you did not invent the hybrid setup. :P Hybrid setups were here even back in beta.

I was thinking of my setup, lol, not of me as some great inventor.

And, ofcourse, you must look on enemies as well, even in support setup, but more concentration (and clicking) is on allies.

[dani-o]

do you know anything about soccer??

what if the goal keeper, say that he doesnt want to stay protecting the goal, and decides to go outside the area and start trying to make goals to the other team...

im pretty sure that if that happens, the team of that goalkeeper is going to lose.

that is the way i feel with conjurers, they have an advantage, they can do something that no one else can, they can help directly to their mates, but they decide not to help their friends, in order to try to kill enemies, even knowing that the entire group performance its going to be affected in a negative way.

[Punti_X]

Originally Posted by dani-o

do you know anything about soccer??

what if the goal keeper, say that he doesnt want to stay protecting the goal, and decides to go outside the area and start trying to make goals to the other team...

im pretty sure that if that happens, the team of that goalkeeper is going to lose.

that is the way i feel with conjurers, they have an advantage, they can do something that no one else can, they can help directly to their mates, but they decide not to help their friends, in order to try to kill enemies, even knowing that the entire group performance its going to be affected in a negative way.

Well, hybride setup would mean that you play like José René Higuita Zapata, Columbian gate keeper. Risky, but in certain situations, efficiant.