Balance update: more BUG FIXING - Page 2

Bladnoch · 09-10-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chilko

[*]Modified: Arrow prices have been lowered

This is like, the best thing I've seen in a while on this forum (although everything else you've done is also very much appreciated) so I'm just gonna do a celebration dance and reunite myself with the archer classes.

LupeFiasco · 09-10-2010, 07:19 PM

Woah @ the first one

e30G · 09-10-2010, 07:27 PM

I am having trouble getting into Amun. I get an "Error patching game" message after downloading the patch.

Barya · 09-10-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by _Enio_

Will we get a more reliable Unstoppable Madness on lower levels too?

For example, Ao1 is spell working 100% - it always decrease damage, not randomly.

UM unreliable not bcoz of low percentage but bcoz it has percentage at all, with its "strike here" animation and 1/4 duration.
Making it resisting X cc's with 100% like TfB and increase duration ratio is solution. This not making barbarians op in war, and allow barbarian be usable 100% of time, not 1/4 with current duration ratio.

If NGD really afraid, it can be made like "add 1-2 100% resists at 1-2 levels for first CC's" at first time for live testing.

The same with Ao1, it can works for first X hits, and with great duration ratio, allowing proper usage. Or even better, it can soak up to X damage (x4-x10 of HP idk).

Hocus · 09-10-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by e30ernest

I am having trouble getting into Amun. I get an "Error patching game" message after downloading the patch.

Same here.

_Enio_ · 09-10-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barya

UM unreliable not bcoz of low percentage but bcoz it has percentage at all, with its "strike here" animation and 1/4 duration.
Making it resisting X cc's with 100% like TfB and increase duration ratio is solution. This not making barbarians op in war, and allow barbarian be usable 100% of time, not 1/4 with current duration ratio.

Im not asking for 100% reliability but for the low levels to have 90ish% chance too but different durations on levels.

Thats the design other (beside new PB) reactional spells with 1 or 0 effect work (SoW, Escapist). NGD expressed they agree on that, just asking so they dont miss that by accident since this is a cruical part for tactical use of UM / configuration decisions.

Zas_ · 09-10-2010, 07:57 PM

Various bugs/remarks from Amun tests (hunter centric):

Stalker Surroundings:
- it doesn't give RP to hunter if allies under it kill someone
- nearest allies should be selected first (too random)
- make camoed allies semi-visible (ala Camouflage)
- please reduce speed malus at lower levels (-20%, -25%, -30%, -35%, -40%) so level 1 is one ally camoed but lower speed malus
- new Enemy surveillance, Reveal and new OP barb areas are enough to balance it....

Enemy Surveillance:
- unreadable sometimes too much info, bad style

Camouflage:
- stlll bugged when going out of a fort

Camouflage corpse:
- good support spell
- no one will put 5 points in it ever (new power point system is very restricting to hunters imho).

Dodge:
- +30% evade has no impact with "normal" evade level, only useful in conjunction with new Escapist... (same applies to Cat reflexes)

Spell Elude:
- useless atm, spell resistance bonus is too low even at level 5 to make any difference

Mobility:
- +2% at level 1 -> useless but if one invest 4-5 points in it

Wild Spirit:
- +2% at level 1 -> useless, no significant speed increase but on VERY long way

Finesse:
- mana cost is too high

Repetition Shot:
- please reduce mana cost, since you reduced damages

Dual Shot:
- casting time too long, reduce it a bit

About barbs damages:
- far too high, you'll have to nerf them soon...
- new hunters are born...

Great you fixed many bugs (finally), good work guys !

Miraculix · 09-10-2010, 08:04 PM

What is considered "Under attack" ?

theotherhiveking · 09-10-2010, 08:11 PM

Receiving damage i guess.

Also. The attack animation kept playing under a stun, not one but 3 times, the i have to say the resulting animation was rather cool

. It made it look like the sword actually had weight.

Whirlwind, i used it twice, once it worked fine, then i tried it on a mob, it didnt do any damage, and the effect kept playing after the spell ended.

Myxir · 09-10-2010, 08:35 PM

Reveal still needs a tweak.
It will be a spell on level 1 that will be spammed without thinking.
Instead it would be better to increase range or make the spell chance based. You could take the same percantage as used on dispell magic. That would be fair.
Maybe support conjurers still need more mana.

Appart from this:
Great work!!!

09-10-2010, 07:19 PM	#12
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09-10-2010, 07:27 PM	#13
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	I am having trouble getting into Amun. I get an "Error patching game" message after downloading the patch. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

09-10-2010, 07:57 PM	#17
Zas_ Count Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: France Posts: 1,024	Various bugs/remarks from Amun tests (hunter centric): Stalker Surroundings: - it doesn't give RP to hunter if allies under it kill someone - nearest allies should be selected first (too random) - make camoed allies semi-visible (ala Camouflage) - please reduce speed malus at lower levels (-20%, -25%, -30%, -35%, -40%) so level 1 is one ally camoed but lower speed malus - new Enemy surveillance, Reveal and new OP barb areas are enough to balance it.... Enemy Surveillance: - unreadable sometimes too much info, bad style Camouflage: - stlll bugged when going out of a fort Camouflage corpse: - good support spell - no one will put 5 points in it ever (new power point system is very restricting to hunters imho). Dodge: - +30% evade has no impact with "normal" evade level, only useful in conjunction with new Escapist... (same applies to Cat reflexes) Spell Elude: - useless atm, spell resistance bonus is too low even at level 5 to make any difference Mobility: - +2% at level 1 -> useless but if one invest 4-5 points in it Wild Spirit: - +2% at level 1 -> useless, no significant speed increase but on VERY long way Finesse: - mana cost is too high Repetition Shot: - please reduce mana cost, since you reduced damages Dual Shot: - casting time too long, reduce it a bit About barbs damages: - far too high, you'll have to nerf them soon... - new hunters are born... Great you fixed many bugs (finally), good work guys ! __________________ Annavilya / War-Luck (Haven)

09-10-2010, 08:04 PM	#18
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09-10-2010, 08:11 PM	#19
theotherhiveking Count Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,452	Receiving damage i guess. Also. The attack animation kept playing under a stun, not one but 3 times, the i have to say the resulting animation was rather cool . It made it look like the sword actually had weight. Whirlwind, i used it twice, once it worked fine, then i tried it on a mob, it didnt do any damage, and the effect kept playing after the spell ended. __________________ ⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺

09-10-2010, 08:35 PM	#20
Myxir Count Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,164	Reveal still needs a tweak. It will be a spell on level 1 that will be spammed without thinking. Instead it would be better to increase range or make the spell chance based. You could take the same percantage as used on dispell magic. That would be fair. Maybe support conjurers still need more mana. Appart from this: Great work!!! __________________ French Warriors of Syrtis: Nessa Telrunya (Hunter) - Myxir (Warlock) - Estra (Conjurer) In War it does not matter who is right, but who is left.