Warlocks and Cast Speed - Page 2

sobis · 09-25-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HuntShot

How lame is that.... I mean come on why nerf CS there was nothing wrong with it :/

Minorian · 09-25-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HuntShot

How lame is that.... I mean come on why nerf CS there was nothing wrong with it :/

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doppelapfel · 09-25-2010, 04:21 PM

The old cast"speed" reduced the casting time by %, fe devotion 5, 50% cs -> half casttime. Now its real castspeed, this means you have to use the formula for speed:
v=s/t
or better:
t=s/v

t=time it takes you to cast the spell
s="way" (the castingtime without any boni)
v=speed, 1+xx%

If you cast ST with your 20% cs gear it takes you:
t=s/v
t=3/1,2
t=2,5s
So 0,5 seconds or 1/6=16% less then without gear.
With devotion 5 your boni give you a lot less:
Only with devotion 5: 1,5s
With devotion and gear: 1,3636...
~5% less casttime compared to casting with devotion only.

I like the change, its a nerf for me but it was needed. Now NGD has to make the other classes less effected by gear...

Minorian · 09-25-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by doppelapfel

I like the change, its a nerf for me but it was needed. Now NGD has to make the other classes less effected by gear...

Didnt they? AS suffered the same nerf, and from what I hear dmg bonus only affects your damage for half its actual written value.

HuntShot · 09-25-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

O.O I guess there was something about warlcoks casting the spell that decided all wars, with a cast time of under 1 sec.

yeah but It got nerfed didnt it?
so what sence does it make, we are mages we need to cast fast or we'll die.

Minorian · 09-25-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HuntShot

yeah but It got nerfed didnt it?
so what sence does it make, we are mages we need to cast fast or we'll die.

Yes it got nerfed. No it does not make sense, Youre summoning meteors and calling down lightning and forcing 40 people to the ground, it should take you time.

Gabburtjuh · 09-26-2010, 10:00 AM

beat you matt

doppelapfel · 09-26-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Need_More_Invasions

Didnt they? AS suffered the same nerf, and from what I hear dmg bonus only affects your damage for half its actual written value.

Anyway, uber geared marks still do nearly twice the dmg a marks with normal equipment can do. I got 600 norms and 800 crits from a marks only using ra and maneuver some minutes ago. He just stood there shoting at me, i was
dead before i got near enough to attack. -.-

HidraA · 09-27-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by doppelapfel

Anyway, uber geared marks still do nearly twice the dmg a marks with normal equipment can do. I got 600 norms and 800 crits from a marks only using ra and maneuver some minutes ago. He just stood there shoting at me, i was
dead before i got near enough to attack. -.-

Marks has not been chaged.Is some old boring marx what shoot from new york to paris and nothing more.There was only general changes for archer class.Now dex is more effective like before.

An about cast speed has been nerfred because of bypassing GCD and warlocks was able to kill almoust everyone very fast before can be touched.

Monthser · 09-28-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HidraA

...cast speed has been nerfred because of bypassing GCD and warlocks was able to kill almoust everyone very fast before can be touched.

Yes, you are right about that cheating with the GCD but that was being done bij a handfull of warlocks -allways the same ones, who everybody knew- and yes those ppl were able to kill everyone very fast in no time. But the majority of warlocks didnt cheat and do not have the ubergear those have. So the majority of good faith warlocks have being punished for those abusers.
So there I am with my staff hitting ppl with 50 damage lol. Sultar is a joke now, Soul keeper the same. So whats the role of the warlock now? He is now some kind of warjurer. The normal warlock does not have the range of the mark nor the high damage of the warrior not to speak of his low defense armour. In my opinion the WARLORD should be one to be feared and he is not anymore.
I know that balancing mages is a difficult task for NGD and I hope they find a solution to this problem. In the meantime -me as a normal warlock player without ubergear- I am not playing with my lock anymore.

09-25-2010, 04:21 PM	#13
doppelapfel Baron Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 715	The old cast"speed" reduced the casting time by %, fe devotion 5, 50% cs -> half casttime. Now its real castspeed, this means you have to use the formula for speed: v=s/t or better: t=s/v t=time it takes you to cast the spell s="way" (the castingtime without any boni) v=speed, 1+xx% If you cast ST with your 20% cs gear it takes you: t=s/v t=3/1,2 t=2,5s So 0,5 seconds or 1/6=16% less then without gear. With devotion 5 your boni give you a lot less: Only with devotion 5: 1,5s With devotion and gear: 1,3636... ~5% less casttime compared to casting with devotion only. I like the change, its a nerf for me but it was needed. Now NGD has to make the other classes less effected by gear...