Clarrification on save guard AI and possible abuse

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

Originally Posted by mr_scsi

heres a cool thought, I'd like to see the save guards gone. They are not needed.
Also, nix the -rps. Instead, drop the bar for lvl 50+ for xps, meaning you hit 50, the bar stops
and xp no longer increases. Your done, no need to keep adding to it.

THEN kill someone at the save and its -2000 xp. Yes thats a -2k xp.
Kill 1 person and BANG your lvl 49 again. I think save camping would stop.

hahaha there would be no save camping.. ever.

[bois]

Originally Posted by mr_scsi

heres a cool thought, I'd like to see the save guards gone. They are not needed.
Also, nix the -rps. Instead, drop the bar for lvl 50+ for xps, meaning you hit 50, the bar stops
and xp no longer increases. Your done, no need to keep adding to it.

THEN kill someone at the save and its -2000 xp. Yes thats a -2k xp.
Kill 1 person and BANG your lvl 49 again. I think save camping would stop.

Good to stop lvl 50 players. Not so good to stop lower levels and players in between levels. Another suggestion may be a short term resurrection retaliation type effect. The newly resurrected (at save) person will reflect 90% of the damage for a short time period within a certain range of the save, provided that they cast no buff or attack. The camper in effect is killing itself by attacking too soon. This effect should be fairly short.

On another note, how bad is save camping now anyway? I hardly ever see this anymore. Is it even worth the effort to do anything more in this matter?

Also, Nekoko that was a good opening post. I find that this game has too many things that are damn nebulous. The community manager should prepare a text of all offences in game. For too long the NGD position is lodged in obscure posts and threads leaving many players to guess. Step up and make a definitive statement and sticky them.

Artec

[HidraA]

Ahahah this is damn funny.Two months a go all spamm forum ...put guards at
save...and all where happy till someone got banned for exploiting bug of AI....now all scream: take ride of guards
Comon ppl what you want? To take ride of guards and after 3 months scream again wee want guards back ?...or lets here more plausible opinions?

-I never was agree with guards at saves.But when told this all made me idiot.Now all 50% of ppl want to get ride of them.
-Exploiting bugs of AI win a ban ,is fair sentence.And 2 days is not bad ...
-In syrtis 90% of ppl was afk at save for hours ...now with this guards they are 15 hours from 24 afk...useless players and they deserve to be killed P:

Can ppl before come with one idea to anlise and tell:-this is my ideea,this are minus and this are plus for my ideea? P:

[Mashu]

I almost forgot about something like save camping. It does not exist since guards are at saves... problem is solved. I don't know what is this thread for.,

[Klutu]

I don't save camp - but I will fight around the save

Most people who complain about savecamping do it because they sit and talk at the saves or afk and expect to be left alone

I make trips to Herb CS and ill kill someone and he will sit at the save until his buddies show up - which i find pretty lame

it's a war game you win you lose - all this talk about rp whoring is pointless - if you wanted to see camping stopped simply remove RP and Replace with kill/death ratios or replace with nothing

[mr_scsi]

Originally Posted by bois

.....Also, Nekoko that was a good opening post. I find that this game has too many things that are damn nebulous. The community manager should prepare a text of all offences in game. For too long the NGD position is lodged in obscure posts and threads leaving many players to guess. Step up and make a definitive statement and sticky them.

Artec

+1 I dislike the 'rumor rules', when its passed along word of mouth ingame that you can be banned for this or that.

For example, I was told I could be banned for naming my pet \n\n\n\n\n......
I don't get why that would mater, but not being one to tempt the fates, I changed it.

Things like that need to be clearly stated somewhere easy to find.

[rogueish]

When I started playing several years ago, if someone posted a thread complaining about being killed afk at an alter they were laughed out of the forum. And maybe Im an old style player but I still agree with the old outllook that if you go afk anywhere in wz, even at an alter you deserve to be killed. Regnum doesnt have any true safe zones, never did, and shouldnt outside of the realm. It takes like 30 seconds to log out and only slightly longer to log back in, so its not a major issue to simply log out to take a break from the game.

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

Originally Posted by rogueish

When I started playing several years ago, if someone posted a thread complaining about being killed afk at an alter they were laughed out of the forum. And maybe Im an old style player but I still agree with the old outllook that if you go afk anywhere in wz, even at an alter you deserve to be killed. Regnum doesnt have any true safe zones, never did, and shouldnt outside of the realm. It takes like 30 seconds to log out and only slightly longer to log back in, so its not a major issue to simply log out to take a break from the game.

i agree with this only if its an hour long afk type thing. if its just to go for a piss break or grab a quick snack or something, it just kinda stupid to log out then back in.

[Warthog]

To me anyone bitching bout being killed by a save in warzone needs to find a new game. :d It is the warzone, 95% of the time you already have a built in option not to be "camped" at the save, called click on the ressurection to warzone gate button. This is, and should be enough input from NGD if something simlar to the next suggest would be implemented. If you need to afk a long period log off and then back as people have said. An if you are using the save to be "safe" for the few mins it takes to use the restroom or something who cares if you die, you can just res right back to where you were soon as you get back. Someone got a few useless RPs killing you when you went to the toilet, waaaahhhh, omg NGD help! Bleh, who cares, get over it, get over yourself and just play.

As for the 5% of the time when you actually have no choice, that being when your gate is already in danger. A simple solution for me would be instead of having res to gate button, change it to a res to where you start when you first make a char button. This way people still have an option to go somewhere safe but not directly to gate to defend it. Perhaps the initiate zone teleports would need to be hcnaged if this was implemented, which I wouldn't be against. I mean seriouslly how many people rely on them as a way to move around on a consistent basis anyway. Maybe sometimes you might use, but not like a daily or hourly type of thing.

[Nekoko]

While the save camping stuff etc is relevent to this post, I'd like if people would focus on getting a proper thread going for bannable offenses. Glad to hear a lot of people feel along the same lines I do about the subject.