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Old 12-29-2010, 12:33 AM   #11
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I just have to do a quick word on this.

Non-premium players are living the life. There is no significant advantage do being premium, other than the horse that gets you killed more often than not. There are only corners to cut, everything can and with this idea would still be able to be achieved without premium.

Most games with some form of premium content adds a huge advantage to the people that drop some coin. Some games you can buy your way to the highest of lvls with the best equipment, not doing any work. Some give such amazing equipment that non-premium players dont even have a chance. Non-premium players in RO have it so much better than that.

Im actually kind of sick of the attitude some non-premium players have. Its a harsh reality, but face it, premium people have a stronger opinion than yours. You are lucky NGD even listens to you, lets you make suggestions, try to change the game, without you even paying them a cent. Premium players help the game, help it build and grow. We support the team behind the game. We keep it alive. In a normal game with not so awesome devs, your opinion wouldnt even be listened too, they wouldnt care.

This all may come off as selfcentered and douchey, but really, be thankful that NGD provides you all the services they provide to the people that support their company.

To end it all, I do not agree with the suggestion of this thread. I think it wouls be too easy for premium players to get their gear. Im a premium player against this idea. The above was just my rant about how some non-premium players come off way too confident in themselves.

I concur premium boxes are fine as it is although it does suck to get 10 gauntlets in a row but it happens. I to am a premium player and the only changes I would like to see happen with premium is tradeable mounts & barbarian weapon boxes should only drop items the class can use.
I have several people that I am friends with that are either in a country they can't buy xim in or simply can not afford it that I would GIFT a horse to if NGD permitted it. Just my 2 cents.

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Old 12-29-2010, 01:03 AM   #12
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OKay well you guys have given me your 2 scents and i concure that i guess its not a good idea for now but they really have to work on that 10 gauntlet in a row thing i mean c'mon
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:28 PM   #13
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Well i guess it was just bad luck. The chance you get a pair of gauntlets is completely random. I can agree with you that NGD implements a 1h weapon or 2h weapon button for barbarians but thats another discussion.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:59 PM   #14
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There is no significant advantage of being premium....
Well if there were not for premium players this game would be dead but if there were not for the non-premium players this game would also be dead (empty of people = dead).
That said we have to admit that in general premium players do have a substantial advantage towards the non-premium buyers. If you cannot afford a horse you will very often get late to take part in some battle. Generally heavy premium buyers have better equipment than others. Players who cannot afford it, will try to get good equipment from drops, (super)bosses etc., but this take time and many players do not have the time or patience for that and get frustrated when they get killed because the others have better gear. Skills are very important but in case of equal experience, fights get decided by better gear. Thats a fact.
Of course NGD needs money to survive, like every company, but I think that the best gear should have to be available for everyone and not only for premium buyers. There are many other ways or items that can provide a really good source of income. Its all a matter of thinking.
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:31 AM   #15
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Lol, two scents. How did they smell?

In all seriousness though, for my class I've had better drops from grinding than buying premium – I did once get a moderately awesome 1h axe from a box, but I can't really use it, and that's a story for another thread. I am at this point in time not using a single item that I personally received from a lucky box. Sad, perhaps?

I've come across better premium item systems than NGD's (buy extra dungeon tickets, for example), but I've also come across much, much worse.
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:25 PM   #16
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Well if there were not for premium players this game would be dead but if there were not for the non-premium players this game would also be dead (empty of people = dead).
That said we have to admit that in general premium players do have a substantial advantage towards the non-premium buyers. If you cannot afford a horse you will very often get late to take part in some battle. Generally heavy premium buyers have better equipment than others. Players who cannot afford it, will try to get good equipment from drops, (super)bosses etc., but this take time and many players do not have the time or patience for that and get frustrated when they get killed because the others have better gear. Skills are very important but in case of equal experience, fights get decided by better gear. Thats a fact.
Of course NGD needs money to survive, like every company, but I think that the best gear should have to be available for everyone and not only for premium buyers. There are many other ways or items that can provide a really good source of income. Its all a matter of thinking.
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I'm pretty sure all the items in thegame are available to the public its just the items we get from boxes can be dropped but that would be so rare you'd have a better chance at getting one from vesper
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:29 PM   #17
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Well if there were not for premium players this game would be dead but if there were not for the non-premium players this game would also be dead (empty of people = dead).
That said we have to admit that in general premium players do have a substantial advantage towards the non-premium buyers. If you cannot afford a horse you will very often get late to take part in some battle. Generally heavy premium buyers have better equipment than others. Players who cannot afford it, will try to get good equipment from drops, (super)bosses etc., but this take time and many players do not have the time or patience for that and get frustrated when they get killed because the others have better gear. Skills are very important but in case of equal experience, fights get decided by better gear. Thats a fact.
Of course NGD needs money to survive, like every company, but I think that the best gear should have to be available for everyone and not only for premium buyers. There are many other ways or items that can provide a really good source of income. Its all a matter of thinking.
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I really don't think that this is the case. The "best gear" comes rarely from premium boxes. Just look at the threads where people in fact moan about boxes being almost useless. The game is also quite a bit about the skill and unfortunately also about luck.

Everyone can get uber gear WITHOUT the help of premium boxes; it depends on how long you play really (trading, buying/finding magnanintes, drops from mobs)

Apart from horses there is no real advantage of being premium. It only allows you to take shortcuts, look better and have bigger stash

The only must-have premium item is a horse. But even without it the game is fuly playable.

I thing NGD did an amazing job with their premium content.
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:21 PM   #18
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I really don't think that this is the case. The "best gear" comes rarely from premium boxes. Just look at the threads where people in fact moan about boxes being almost useless. The game is also quite a bit about the skill and unfortunately also about luck.

Everyone can get uber gear WITHOUT the help of premium boxes; it depends on how long you play really (trading, buying/finding magnanintes, drops from mobs)

Apart from horses there is no real advantage of being premium. It only allows you to take shortcuts, look better and have bigger stash

The only must-have premium item is a horse. But even without it the game is fuly playable.

I thing NGD did an amazing job with their premium content.
In my opinion there is an advantage of being premium specially if you are a heavy premium buyer. I know a few and believe me they've got ubergear for everyone of their characters.
I do have a horse but thats all. I do not have uber gear and like me many others, so I do not agree with you that everyone can have it. As I said not everyone can afford to spend lots of money or grind for hours and hours or log in when it's boss time.
And yes this game is "fully" playable without premium but you will often have some disadvantages. Besides of being late very often to some battles if you do not have a horse, some players will most of the times win from you due to their ubergear even if you know they have the same skills and battle experience as you. And thats a shame.
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:17 PM   #19
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For the record, I think NGD has done an admirable job with the premium items. Many games are far far worse. In actuality you would not be even slightly competitive at higher levels without buying stuff. This game allows you to still have fun and still places some emphasis on skill,experience and knowledge of your character. Because you have uber gear, it will not guarantee you the win. It helps though.
Once this game is not for charity it will always be this way. You cannot stop a heavy investor (read Ximerin buyer) from purchasing to get what they desire. NGD needs to make money. Maintaining the game costs money. And besides this is not a PVP game. It is supposed to be a collaborative RVR game so the best unified and coordinated team wins. Not the most geared up single player.

The only issue is the horses. I suggested a while back that NGD run the 'gift a horse' system through the redeem code system. That way they have the records, the oversight and the control to keep things in check and flag unwanted activities. The player buys the horse gift voucher at the site and gives the receiver the redeem code to enter to get their horse. Limits can be imposed by this system. Other than the horse thing I see no other major issues with premium.

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Old 12-31-2010, 07:38 PM   #20
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Believe it or not, the sole reason why i chose to play Regnum Online was because of its premium content. The reason for this was because the game i played prior was called 4story, which was a similar epic RvR game which arguably that is better than RO in many ways but its biggest downfall was the fact the only way you stood a chance in the battlefield was if you spent $500 or more on your gear.

The fact that NGD's policy of premium not effecting the outcome of war is one of the best features of Regnum
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