Which Conjurer spells at Vesper/Eve? - Page 2

Monthser · 01-11-2011, 07:08 PM

So warriors have now more chance??? but that's not fair at all for the other classes! Has anyone complain to NGD about that?

Balint says dropping is not random. This could explain why often the same players get the drops. I thought they were just lucky.
But it is not clear what do you have to do exactly to get the drop. You put a formula but do you mean that the one who makes more damage and gives more support to your allies + bonus of your lost hp (thats not clear to me) is the one who drops?

ieti · 01-11-2011, 07:42 PM

It is not luck or luck have a little share. I can guarantee that.

Balint · 01-11-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Monthser

So warriors have now more chance??? but that's not fair at all for the other classes! Has anyone complain to NGD about that?

It's not 100%. It was my opinion. BUT

I got only 2 times drop from vesper. 2 gloves. The second one was right after the first drop (I tryed to use the same tactic) I'm sure It's not random.

At the SH a leader of Clyclops Warrior Master started to attack me while I was afk. I lost 80% of my hp and I didn't attack it and I didn't use any aura spell. Others killed it, and I got many xp and gold, minor jasper and some normal drop. So your hp is important too.

About drops hidding: If one player get an epic boss drop in the first time he will not hide it for sure...

blood-raven · 01-11-2011, 10:29 PM

i think it the whole drop mechanism needs redesign.

who defeats a boss mob (have it in log) get the drop, simple.

this way not only conjs will get it but maybe a lucky marks will or a lucky hunter.
idk what to do with the support conjs but right now it's insane or you are a conj, a barb or a knight all other classes are not welcome since they have 0 usefullness.

Eyfura · 01-12-2011, 05:10 AM

Well i have same setup for bosses and wars. Pylon, mana communion and greater regenation and ofc single spells like heal ally etc. With these spells i get 500-700 exp + GRP, i dont know is it much for conju. I have got drop 3 times from vesper and 0 from evendim but i dont know how it works and i dont care. Havent killed bosses for like month(s?)

Anyway, i noticed this too same ppl get often the drop

Monthser · 01-12-2011, 11:13 AM

So if the dropping of Vesper or Eve is not random I would appreciate if someone would be kind and unselfish enough to put here the tactic or spells a conjurer could use to have a better chance to get a drop from the bosses. As I said before I have been many times healing and buffing and resurrecting lots of people and I never ever got anything while I hear around me that many have got 2, 3 or more times droppings. That's really frustrating so please help me out.

ieti · 01-12-2011, 01:13 PM

No comment. Previous post shows all...

NGD please fix drop chance calculations, made them COMPLETELY random, made drops from bosses extremely rare. We even made a couple of suggestions to bound them with how much you take part in wars and help your realm. Situation with boss wh****g is bad. You really have to see how many people go to bosses and how many people actually play and participate into wars.

Groark · 01-12-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ieti

NGD please fix drop chance calculations, made them COMPLETELY random ...

Yep, I agree with you. That issue with the superbosses must be changed quickly. As it is now: it sucks. Fights get broken because of that. Bah.

Kralmoe · 01-13-2011, 08:45 AM

As far as I know -because I dont have that much knowledge of conjus- they start buffing the players at Eve/Vesper and then they keep spamming all their areas (5).
I also know that they usually get in a party with certain players to have bigger chance.

I think it's pathetic that of so many conjurers that appear when Vesper or Eve are on -in Syrtis, Horus- only Eyfura gives some explanation about the spells she uses there. This shows not only how pathetic Syrtis conjurers are but also how selfish and pityfull they are. Shame.

ieti · 01-13-2011, 10:07 AM

@Kralmoe please do not generalize about Syrtis conjurers. People that come with conjurers there do not play them in wars. Most of them are long forgotten alts used only to get drops. Parked, forgotten, skilled as enchanters. This are not conjurers! People who really play conjurers do it with heart, so speaking this about them is abusing. At least for me is unpleasant.

People changed, became drop hungry. I miss times when we finished battles and then go at Vesper as a realm to have fun. Now all bosses are 20 second spam, 20 minutes who got the drop, and 5 minutes to all players to logoff.

Then we are again 10 - 15 people in war. It is sad.

01-11-2011, 07:42 PM	#12
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	It is not luck or luck have a little share. I can guarantee that. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

01-11-2011, 10:29 PM	#14
blood-raven Master Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Belgium Posts: 561	i think it the whole drop mechanism needs redesign. who defeats a boss mob (have it in log) get the drop, simple. this way not only conjs will get it but maybe a lucky marks will or a lucky hunter. idk what to do with the support conjs but right now it's insane or you are a conj, a barb or a knight all other classes are not welcome since they have 0 usefullness. __________________ SHAKE IT LIKE A POLAR BEAR NINJA

01-12-2011, 01:13 PM	#17
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	No comment. Previous post shows all... NGD please fix drop chance calculations, made them COMPLETELY random, made drops from bosses extremely rare. We even made a couple of suggestions to bound them with how much you take part in wars and help your realm. Situation with boss wh**g is bad. You really have to see how many people go to bosses and how many people actually play and participate into wars. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE**

01-13-2011, 10:07 AM	#20
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	@Kralmoe please do not generalize about Syrtis conjurers. People that come with conjurers there do not play them in wars. Most of them are long forgotten alts used only to get drops. Parked, forgotten, skilled as enchanters. This are not conjurers! People who really play conjurers do it with heart, so speaking this about them is abusing. At least for me is unpleasant. People changed, became drop hungry. I miss times when we finished battles and then go at Vesper as a realm to have fun. Now all bosses are 20 second spam, 20 minutes who got the drop, and 5 minutes to all players to logoff. Then we are again 10 - 15 people in war. It is sad. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

01-11-2011, 07:08 PM	#11
Monthser Secondary account Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 142	So warriors have now more chance??? but that's not fair at all for the other classes! Has anyone complain to NGD about that? Balint says dropping is not random. This could explain why often the same players get the drops. I thought they were just lucky. But it is not clear what do you have to do exactly to get the drop. You put a formula but do you mean that the one who makes more damage and gives more support to your allies + bonus of your lost hp (thats not clear to me) is the one who drops?

01-12-2011, 05:10 AM	#15
Eyfura Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 150	Well i have same setup for bosses and wars. Pylon, mana communion and greater regenation and ofc single spells like heal ally etc. With these spells i get 500-700 exp + GRP, i dont know is it much for conju. I have got drop 3 times from vesper and 0 from evendim but i dont know how it works and i dont care. Havent killed bosses for like month(s?) Anyway, i noticed this too same ppl get often the drop

01-12-2011, 11:13 AM	#16
Monthser Secondary account Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 142	So if the dropping of Vesper or Eve is not random I would appreciate if someone would be kind and unselfish enough to put here the tactic or spells a conjurer could use to have a better chance to get a drop from the bosses. As I said before I have been many times healing and buffing and resurrecting lots of people and I never ever got anything while I hear around me that many have got 2, 3 or more times droppings. That's really frustrating so please help me out.

01-13-2011, 08:45 AM	#19
Kralmoe Banned Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 278	As far as I know -because I dont have that much knowledge of conjus- they start buffing the players at Eve/Vesper and then they keep spamming all their areas (5). I also know that they usually get in a party with certain players to have bigger chance. I think it's pathetic that of so many conjurers that appear when Vesper or Eve are on -in Syrtis, Horus- only Eyfura gives some explanation about the spells she uses there. This shows not only how pathetic Syrtis conjurers are but also how selfish and pityfull they are. Shame.