Great job ngd ....

[NSer]

Originally Posted by Truewar

I was grinding with my knight lvl 51 and WM marks attacked me. When I got close to him he casted Horn to... run away... keep range...

WTF? is that new escapist?

IMAO all wm powers should work as horn works. Banners, portals, horn should be casted if any allies near.

banners fine now

[v0rt3x]

Originally Posted by Darcyeti

Why are there always people not understanding that Warmasters are ingame to support their armies? Warmasterskills are and were always supposed to help your allies, not to make yourself a unstoppable force. So stop whining about Warmasterskills been turned in the right direction.

Wow. This statement from a German Player. I´m a little bit surprised (this is rare). But you are completly right.

Greetings from ~GoE~ (a Clan without any Warmaster, because noone has enough WM Coins).

[Darcyeti]

Originally Posted by v0rt3x

Wow. This statement from a German Player. I´m a little bit surprised (this is rare). But you are completly right.

Greetings from ~GoE~ (a Clan without any Warmaster, because noone has enough WM Coins).

No need to be surprised
Could be because of my age or my long time regnum experiance (remembering old time "sit ins" in front of aggers with all 3 realms) or even because I'm in a teamplay related clan

[asterisk]

Adjusting (not nerfing) wm abilities was a correct thing to do, +1 NGD.
Now you see more open field/bridge fights, wz is not a dead land anymore, fights last longer cause nobody casts beacons and people return to defend/retake a fort without the fear of constant invasion which leads to fort camping and kills the action. It is definitely a good step, now saves needs a change to make fun return ingame.

[DemonMonger]

Originally Posted by asterisk

Adjusting (not nerfing) wm abilities was a correct thing to do, +1 NGD.
Now you see more open field/bridge fights, wz is not a dead land anymore, fights last longer cause nobody casts beacons and people return to defend/retake a fort without the fear of constant invasion which leads to fort camping and kills the action. It is definitely a good step, now saves needs a change to make fun return ingame.

Dude,

We have more open field/bridge fights because the people that wanted to do that type of fighting are doing so.

You say that the WM powers were "adjusted" and not "nerfed", but look at what happened to horn of the wind.(reduction in speed = nerf)

The main reason I used warmaster beacons was to buff my realm members at fort doors, and at Tenax <ignis dragon> (along with myself). I cannot use my own skills anymore, but instead must rely on the timing of others then pray that I will get a chance to use their beacon before it's used up.

I would rather not use warmaster powers at all. Maybe one day NGD will force us to use all power points over lvl 50 soley for warmaster skill tree points. Until the day that this happen, I will continue to not use the warmaster skill tree.

[TheMessenger]

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

Dude,

We have more open field/bridge fights because the people that wanted to do that type of fighting are doing so.

lolwut? Where were those players before this update and what were they doing? O, yea...

You say that the WM powers were "adjusted" and not "nerfed", but look at what happened to horn of the wind.(reduction in speed = nerf)

And it needed to be nerfed. But it was more adjusted to not being so OP than being nerfed to being useless. Only selfish players think that it is useless now.

The main reason I used warmaster beacons was to buff my realm members at fort doors, and at Tenax <ignis dragon> (along with myself). I cannot use my own skills anymore, but instead must rely on the timing of others then pray that I will get a chance to use their beacon before it's used up.

Since pr0 ignis invades basically every night (including before the noble quest was changed to once a week) getting WM is not hard and I see a lot 5+ (easily) at forts so, why would you have to "pray" that you will get "to use their beacon before it's used up"? There is a reason you are aloud to use general chat and other services; mumble, TS, vent, etc.) to communicate. If you are saying that you have so many people at a fort that you don't think you will be able to use one of the other 5+/- WMs banners than you need to spread your numbers to different forts. Although, I'm 100% sure you will be able to find 1 offensive/defensive banner to use. You are just complaining for the sake of complaining, as usual.

I would rather not use warmaster powers at all. Maybe one day NGD will force us to use all power points over lvl 50 soley for warmaster skill tree points. Until the day that this happen, I will continue to not use the warmaster skill tree.

Yes, this is smart, force the people that don't want to become WM, like myself, into becoming one. I would rather use the points to perfect the setup I have had since lvl 50.

In bold

10char.

[bois]

I like the update. Things are not quite as OP as before. Use of WM skills for selfish means have ceased. CC and tactics are now potentially effective again allowing for improved gameplay. The adjustment has also brought barbs back in a more balanced way. They still hit hard but at least they are susceptible to CC which makes matter better. At last MS is not the only choice.

Another thing I like is that I can comfortably not max the warmaster tree. Before I felt compelled to skill it to max because I felt as if I would miss out on wars etc. Now I don't have to. I can move those points elsewhere to aid my colleagues.

Horn of the wind works perfectly for me as do the Beacons. They allow me to do what I always wanted. That is, support the war effort.

[DemonMonger]

Originally Posted by TheMessenger

In bold

10char.

First, my truths about what I have stated above are just that, true for me.

Second, ask anyone in my realm if I am a selfish player and you will see that I will gladly sacrifice my time to make anyone in my realm or even an enemy realm gain levels quickly and obtain powerful items for free or cheaper than base store prices.

Next and most importantly, I do not complain just for the sake of complaining.

Finally, I said that I have to worry about being able to use beacons because I do. Most of the time I am alone for lags sake. For every person that loads on screen I pause for 10 seconds. (10 people = 100 seconds where I cannot move) This is why I enter all battles with stalker or camo depending on how many people I track in the distance. This is why I cannot escape when I try to run from a mage (yes basic movement of mage is faster than me) This is why I liked Horn of the wind as it was combined with mobility, even though this combination made me have to sacrifice my attack or defences. My horn has mainly been used to help people advance into combat or to escape from combat. I don't like the fact that now I am forced to use it in a way that hinders its complete purpose for me. I don't like the fact that I cannot use my own banners in combat situations. I paid money to get the skills that were tested. I have been scammed out of what I purchased - plain and simple.

I bought a convertable and then the car company came in the night and changed cars on me. My beautiful fast fun car became a hardtop and lost 80% of its proclaimed features that made it attractive to me in the first place.

TS MUMBLE VENT are options I agree, but to get into those types of group efforts you need to be granted permission.

Can't please everyone....... but at least keep your word on what it is you are offering to your buyers.
People have **ed for less.

[asterisk]

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

Dude,

We have more open field/bridge fights because the people that wanted to do that type of fighting are doing so.

"Dude" when people were fort hoping every 10 mins with teles there was no way to find someone in wz except forts or tele spots, if you didn't noticed that, to bad for you.

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

You say that the WM powers were "adjusted" and not "nerfed", but look at what happened to horn of the wind.(reduction in speed = nerf)

What i see and as i hear the majority of people considered the beacons and horn OP in most situations as it was before and you can read plenty threads about that, still believe was a needed adjustment.

Originally Posted by DemonMonger

The main reason I used warmaster beacons was to buff my realm members at fort doors, and at Tenax <ignis dragon> (along with myself). I cannot use my own skills anymore, but instead must rely on the timing of others then pray that I will get a chance to use their beacon before it's used up.

If an Alsius/Horus player complained about that i might gave him some credit but other realms player and especially Ignis complain? You pray to get one of the beacons when the majority of 60 lvl players are wms?

And to you second post: You complain why a company adjusted some spells you used to compensate your crappy pc/connection? LOL

You cannot use your banners in combat cause maybe not you but others used them in 1v1 with no wm opponent which is plain lame.

And last this is a free game still and nobody required you to pay for skills, if you did it it is only your decision.

[bois]

Demon, it seems like Lag is your greatest enemy.

I got lag (sometimes) and the dreaded jitter too. This originates from my ISP. I know this so I am not bothered that much about it. While complaining may be valid for me, I still understand that mechanics cannot and should not be changed due to circumstances outside of the scope of NGD operations. NGD should effect changes that affects as many as possible in the most positive way possible.
If the source of lag originates from them then that is a different story. But then that part has nothing to to with Warmasters update. That would be a net code and network hardware issue.