New invasion system - fail? Ngd? - Page 2

VeterKh · 12-29-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LucianDeathshield

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fixed. ...

Kerel · 12-29-2012, 02:27 PM

Veter, im still waiting for the moment u realise everything that comes out of you doesnt make any sence.

Hollow-Ichigo · 12-29-2012, 02:55 PM

maybe ngd should remove warzone bosses and put them inside the enemy gate with the dragon blocking the outside. seems fair enough

VeterKh · 12-29-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerel

Veter, im still waiting for the moment u realise everything that comes out of you doesnt make any sence.

from 5 december you are waiting? it is very long ... you have steel nerves

Rever_ · 12-29-2012, 06:30 PM

It´s funny, beacuse in the Spanish forum some people say that dragons are OP and here you say that dragon are useless

VeterKh · 12-29-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Quetejodan

It´s funny, beacuse in the Spanish forum some people say that dragons are OP and here you say that dragon are useless xd

funny, he can't kill any Dragons?

Lebeau · 12-30-2012, 12:38 AM

In my appraisal, invasion mechanics both now & before are gimmicky & telegraph a realm's intentions to invade long before the hammer falls. This gives the invaded realm more than ample time to muster at gate & repel the invaders IF they have enough online to do so. Common sense solution says, the wallgates should be attackable at ANY time, breakable WITHOUT a zerg or dragon, & THEN, invasions will be a far more likely & common occurence.

Once broken, I would have them open for 20 min. + 10 for each capped fort & 20 for the castle (1 hour max.). If forts/castle change hands after wallgate is down, the timer gets affected. No matter how much they change hands tho, the remaining % would not change & after 30 min., for example, only 50% of the time would be lost or gained for each fort or the castle (5/10 instead of 10/20 at the 1/2 way point). Thus, no matter what, the wallgates would only be open for one hour at most & 20 min. at least.

As is however, each & every additional stepping stone added to game to make an invasion possible is just another hurdle one can trip over. As Capt. Scott once quipped, "...the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain...". The MORE hurdles & gimmicks & time taken to set it all up, the LESS likely invasions become (especially for the weaker realms, except on the RECEIVING end), no ifs, ands, or buts ... end of story.

VandaMan · 12-30-2012, 01:02 AM

I'm rather confused, is he saying that the invincible dragon who deals 10k damage AoE attacks is useless, and should also be immune to crowd controls?

l33t_supa_h4x90r · 12-30-2012, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VandaMan

I'm rather confused, is he saying that the invincible dragon who deals 10k damage AoE attacks is useless, and should also be immune to crowd controls?

I think he wants it not only immune to ccs but also able to attack the gate and people inside the gate

Then again, I don't speak the language he does, so...

VeterKh · 12-30-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by l33t_supa_h4x90r

I think he wants it not only immune to ccs but also able to attack the gate and people inside the gate

Then again, I don't speak the language he does, so...

i told about Dragon not atack enemies near gate on WZ side. If Dragon not atack why we need him??? Immune to cc's it will be nice, because it's hard to collect all 3 relics.

12-29-2012, 02:55 PM	#13
Hollow-Ichigo Count Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom, England Posts: 1,038	maybe ngd should remove warzone bosses and put them inside the enemy gate with the dragon blocking the outside. seems fair enough __________________

12-29-2012, 06:30 PM	#15
Rever_ Marquis Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,059	It´s funny, beacuse in the Spanish forum some people say that dragons are OP and here you say that dragon are useless __________________ Rever Freestyle - Brujo Wm \|\|\| Tirador Wm - Rever Aburrido RIP "Quetejodan"

12-29-2012, 02:27 PM	#12
Kerel Pledge Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 19	Veter, im still waiting for the moment u realise everything that comes out of you doesnt make any sence.

12-30-2012, 12:38 AM	#17
Lebeau Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: 'B-F-Egypt', Virginia, U.S.A. (please pity & forgive us poor american fools!). Posts: 605	In my appraisal, invasion mechanics both now & before are gimmicky & telegraph a realm's intentions to invade long before the hammer falls. This gives the invaded realm more than ample time to muster at gate & repel the invaders IF they have enough online to do so. Common sense solution says, the wallgates should be attackable at ANY time, breakable WITHOUT a zerg or dragon, & THEN, invasions will be a far more likely & common occurence. Once broken, I would have them open for 20 min. + 10 for each capped fort & 20 for the castle (1 hour max.). If forts/castle change hands after wallgate is down, the timer gets affected. No matter how much they change hands tho, the remaining % would not change & after 30 min., for example, only 50% of the time would be lost or gained for each fort or the castle (5/10 instead of 10/20 at the 1/2 way point). Thus, no matter what, the wallgates would only be open for one hour at most & 20 min. at least. As is however, each & every additional stepping stone added to game to make an invasion possible is just another hurdle one can trip over. As Capt. Scott once quipped, "...the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain...". The MORE hurdles & gimmicks & time taken to set it all up, the LESS likely invasions become (especially for the weaker realms, except on the RECEIVING end), no ifs, ands, or buts ... end of story.

12-30-2012, 01:02 AM	#18
VandaMan Baron Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 747	I'm rather confused, is he saying that the invincible dragon who deals 10k damage AoE attacks is useless, and should also be immune to crowd controls?