New balance update: First pass to summons and more tweaks (Stage 10) - Page 21

Thrik · 08-30-2010, 07:20 AM

Behave you two.

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Originally Posted by ieti

Tsuk you play "lubricant" too you know...

Shwish · 08-30-2010, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsuku

Please, don't forget about the "lubricants of RO" :/

That explains why Syrtis needs so much "lubricant"

UmarilsStillHere · 08-30-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Shwish

i just noticed this part now

Well we have been suggesting it for years

Yeah we have a fair ammount of lube, but it spends most of its time around Vesper

Myxir · 08-30-2010, 08:48 AM

Another point that is very old and could get "fixed" now during the blanance changes:
Compare Spell Elude and Son of the Wind.
Sotw gives +1500 spell resistance and you don't resist 100% of the spells by far.
Spell Elude is something like 50 or 65 on level 5.
I think it can be called broken by design. Spell Elude could have something around 33-40% of Sotw on 5 imo.
Some duration tweaks and it's good.

Shwish · 08-30-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

Yeah we have a fair ammount of lube, but it spends most of its time around Vesper

This Vesper character must have one tight hole

Pnarpa · 08-30-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shwish

This Vesper character must have one tight hole

It's the other way around...

I'll stop going off topic now.

AntibioTsu · 08-30-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Myxir

Another point that is very old and could get "fixed" now during the blanance changes:
Compare Spell Elude and Son of the Wind.
Sotw gives +1500 spell resistance and you don't resist 100% of the spells by far.
Spell Elude is something like 50 or 65 on level 5.
I think it can be called broken by design. Spell Elude could have something around 33-40% of Sotw on 5 imo.
Some duration tweaks and it's good.

If Spell Ellude is changed to an useful buff, then it's only fair for Sadistic Guards to also be changed to an useful debuff. Atm it decreases 50 spell resistance on the target (lvl 5), which is even less than Protection Dome's bonus is on lvl 5 (and it's an aura).

Sadistic Guards is one of those spells that would be very useful to Warlocks if it provoked reliable effects, or at least with high chance of working.

Topogigio_BR · 08-30-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shining-Scias

I (now) honestly think that Heal Ally needs a nerf, because the overall damage got nerfed and knights auras and armors got improved/fixed.
With these new modifiers, 900 hp heal in one shot would have been OP imo BUT I think it's stupid to make it % based, because of tons of issues many mentioned before, and problems with low levels (and why should a spell result be based on the target's attributes ?).
And the cooldown and mana cost of Heal Ally haven't been reduced tho, which is another problem...

Personally I wouldn't mind a +600 Heal Ally with slightly lower CD and lower mana cost.

Agree with, this. I think all changes in game makes ppl less heals dependent.

Topogigio_BR · 08-30-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsuku

If Spell Ellude is changed to an useful buff, then it's only fair for Sadistic Guards to also be changed to an useful debuff. Atm it decreases 50 spell resistance on the target (lvl 5), which is even less than Protection Dome's bonus is on lvl 5 (and it's an aura).

Sadistic Guards is one of those spells that would be very useful to Warlocks if it provoked reliable effects, or at least with high chance of working.

Also agree with this. I think we need a good revamp in all this buffs and debuffs that are not directly related to damage and cc spells.
Spells that can be so cool like spell elude and sadistic guards are left aside cos they dont do really good bonus, or at least the mana cot/cd make then not worhtly.

Healerous · 08-30-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining-Scias

I (now) honestly think that Heal Ally needs a nerf, because the overall damage got nerfed and knights auras and armors got improved/fixed.
With these new modifiers, 900 hp heal in one shot would have been OP imo BUT I think it's stupid to make it % based, because of tons of issues many mentioned before, and problems with low levels (and why should a spell result be based on the target's attributes ?).
And the cooldown and mana cost of Heal Ally haven't been reduced tho, which is another problem...

Personally I wouldn't mind a +600 Heal Ally with slightly lower CD and lower mana cost.

totally agree - lower cd, lower mana costs - cant be that u run out of mana just because of healing :/

08-30-2010, 08:48 AM	#204
Myxir Count Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,164	Another point that is very old and could get "fixed" now during the blanance changes: Compare Spell Elude and Son of the Wind. Sotw gives +1500 spell resistance and you don't resist 100% of the spells by far. Spell Elude is something like 50 or 65 on level 5. I think it can be called broken by design. Spell Elude could have something around 33-40% of Sotw on 5 imo. Some duration tweaks and it's good. __________________ French Warriors of Syrtis: Nessa Telrunya (Hunter) - Myxir (Warlock) - Estra (Conjurer) In War it does not matter who is right, but who is left.